Debates of Aug. 20th, 2019
This is page numbers 6187 - 6288 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was public.
Topics
- Oral Questions
- Members Present
- Prayer
- Minister's Statement 233-18(3): Strengthening the Arctic
- Minister's Statement 234-18(3): Improving Access to Services for Residents of the Northwest Territories
- Minister's Statement 235-18(3): Caribou Range Planning
- Minister's Statement 236-18(3): Early Childhood Development: Access, Affordability and Inclusion
- Recognition of Leo Konge, Western Canada Summer Games Medalist
- Family Violence
- Improving P3 Contracts for Northern Benefits
- Anniversaries of Deh Cho Constituents
- Mine Reclamation along Great Bear Lake
- Recycling in Nahendeh
- Child Care in Fort MacPherson
- Strategic Oil and Gas Ltd.
- Health Care in Nunakput
- Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
- Committee Report 34-18(3): Report on the Review of Bill 45: Corrections Act
- Committee Report 33-18(3): Report on Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act
- Motion that Committee Report 33-18(3) be Moved to Committee of the Whole, Carried
- Committee Report 34-18(3): Standing Committee on Social Development Report on the Review of Bill 45: Corrections Act
- Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery (reversion)
- Acknowledgement 26-18(3): Lyda Fuller - Order of the Northwest Territories Inductee
- Question 833-18(3): Recycling in Nahendeh
- Question 834-18(3): Yellowknife Adult Day Programming
- Question 835-18(3): Improving P3 Contracts for Northern Benefits
- Question 836-18(3): Childcare in Fort McPherson
- Question 837-18(3): Strategic Oil and Gas Ltd.
- Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
- Tabled Document 504-18(3): Toward a Plan - Strengthening Canada's Position in the Arctic
- Tabled Document 505-18(3): ommunity Access Program 2018-2019 Results Report, Department of Infrastructure
- Tabled Document 506-18(3): Supporting Access to Child Care in the NWT 2019-2020 Supplementary Action Plan
- Tabled Document 507-18(3): Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 23-18(3): Report on the Review of Bill 40: Smoking Control and Reduction Act and Bill 41: Tobacco and Vapour Products Control Act
- Tabled Document 508-18(3): Legislative Assembly Retiring Allowance Fund Financial Statement for the Year Ended March 31, 2019
- Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
- Committee Motion 206-18(3): Standing Committee on Economic Development and environment Report on the Review of Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Curriculum for Prospector Training, carried
- Committee Motion 207-18(3): Standing Committee on Economic Development and environment Report on the Review of Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Solutions for Rights Issuance Overlapping Municipal boundaries, Carried
- Committee Motion 208-18(3): Standing Committee on Economic Development and environment Report on the Review of Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Independent Panel to Review Royalties System, Carried
- Committee Motion 209-18(3): Standing Committee on Economic Development and environment Report on the Review of Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Principles, Tools, and Indicators for Performance, Transparency and Accountability, Carried
- Committee Motion 210-18(3): Standing Committee on Economic Development and environment Report on the Review of Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Implementation Plan for Mineral Resources Act, Carried
- Committee Motion 211-18(3): Standing Committee on Economic Development and environment Report on the Review of Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Regulatory Gap Regarding Removal of Drill Core, Carried
- Committee Motion 212-18(3): Standing Committee on Economic Development and environment Report on the Review of Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - government Response to Recommendations, Carried
- Committee Motion 213-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 1 to replace definition of "settlement Lands", Carried
- Committee Motion 214-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 7(3)(r) adding (r.1), Defeated
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 215-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend paragraph 17.1(1)(q), Defeated
- Committee Motion 216-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 20 by substituting paragraph (g), Carried
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 217-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 22, Carried
- Committee Motion 218-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act -Amend Clause 22(2), Defeated
- Committee Motion 219-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 22(7.1), Defeated
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 220-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Motion to Amend Clause 22 by adding after (7.2), Defeated
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 221-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 24, Carried
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 222-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 24(7), Defeated
- Committee Motion 223-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 24(13), Defeated
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 223-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend paragraph 28(5)(a), Defeated
- Committee Motion 224-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend paragraph 28(5)(a) Carried
- Committee Motion 225-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 28(5)(a) and (b), Defeated
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 226-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend paragraph 42(5)(a), Carried
- Committee Motion 227-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 42(5), Defeated
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 228-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Delete and Replace clause 51, Defeated
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 229-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Delete and Replace clause 52(1), Carried
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 230-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 52(2) by adding (1.2), Carried
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 231-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 53, Carried
- Committee Motion 232-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend paragraph 111(1)(a), Carried
- Committee Motion 233-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 111(4) to add (4.1), Defeated
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 234-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 111(4) to add (4.1) and (4.2), Defeated
- Recorded Vote
- Committee Motion 235-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclauses 113(1) and (2), Carried
- Committee Motion 236-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 116, Carried
- Report Of Committee Of The Whole
- Bill 39: Environmental Rights Act
- Recorded Vote
- Bill 42: An Act to Amend the Petroleum Products Tax Act
- Recorded Vote
- Bill 43: An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act
- Recorded Vote
- Bill 46: Public Land Act
- Recorded Vote
- Orders Of The Day
Question 837-18(3): Strategic Oil and Gas Ltd.
Oral Questions
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Wally Schumann Hay River South
The MVRMA system provides a transparent process to review closure plans for sites and updates securities as required, and as such, a process is under way for the Cameron Hills site. The Government of the Northwest Territories has confidence in the modern system as it was envisioned in the claim and implemented through the MVRMA and institutions of public government, and we'll use all tools at its disposal to protect the public interest.
Our technical experts will continue to participate in the ongoing process by the Land and Water Board to review the closure plan and associated securities for this site. The Devolution Agreement provides for the review of the transitional provisions related to the MVRMA following the [microphone off]. Pursuant to the Devolution Agreement, the review will be conducted by the parties to the agreement, and this review is expected to commence early in the life of the next government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 837-18(3): Strategic Oil and Gas Ltd.
Oral Questions
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Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier this sitting the Minister of Justice spoke about the transition of SMCC, the correction centre there, to a therapeutic model based loosely on, or rather inspired, I guess, by the Guthrie House model in Victoria. I think this is one of the most exciting things that is happening right now in corrections, if not in the entire government of the NWT.
We realize that we can't just send people into jails and expect them to come out fully rehabilitated and ready to integrate into society, and so this is an attempt to address some of those issues. It's a short time frame that people are in correctional facilities in the territories, so that is one of the challenges. I just want to get some information from the Minister about how they are addressing that challenge.
I would like to know what type of education is going to be provided to inmates attending the therapeutic model in terms of getting them ready for work, because a lot of people, they just need basic work skills. They need to know that they have to get up on time to get to work. They need to know how to punch a time clock, and that kind of stuff. Can the Minister please explain, or give us some details about, the type of education that is going to be provided in the therapeutic model? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
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Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
Oral Questions
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Louis Sebert Thebacha
Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. There are certain steps that have to be developed in the therapeutic community at SMCC and, of course, these are being worked on. There are such things as developing a classification criteria for residents, inclusion in the program, contingency planning, and off-grounds activities, developing lesson plans for orientation and pre-treatment healing, and also developing a structure for educational and locational programming. That is part of the therapeutic program. However, I do not have more details than that, but we do recognize this is an important part of the program.
Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
Oral Questions
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
I understand that things work slowly in government, so hopefully the next Member to ask that question can get a little more detail. Part of the therapeutic model or, rather, the Guthrie House model requires that inmates, once they leave, they have some sort of job, that they have somewhere to go and work. Because a lot of people have gone through that model, a lot of the former, I guess, "residents" they are called, have their own businesses and they employ a lot of the people who are released from the program. We do not have that in the territory yet, but we do have a lot of businesses willing to work with people who are fresh out of corrections, so what sort of relationships and maybe agreements with the private sector has the department pursued?
Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
Oral Questions
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Louis Sebert Thebacha
I will seek some more detail on that question from the department. We do realize, of course, that that is an important part of the Guthrie House phased approach, is that, upon release, residents there have continued contact with outreach support, so what happens after the person gets released is clearly a part of the therapeutic community approach. I will attempt to provide more detail to the Member opposite.
Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
One of the reasons that I think SMCC was chosen for this is because there is some private industry there. However, not everyone who is released is going to live in Hay River, so what type of supports are going to be provided for those people who go through this program in their home communities once they return?
Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
Oral Questions
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Louis Sebert Thebacha
That will depend, of course, on the person, the resident, being released and the ability of his home community to provide those types of supports. It will likely be different depending on the resident being released, his character and background, and also the community to which he is going.
Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
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Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It sounds like it's still to be determined, still a work in progress. Again, like I mentioned, Hay River was seen as a good place to try this model out because there is industry and there is access to all of the facilities that are needed. Was there consideration given to having a place where the inmates or residents, once they clear the program, can stay in Hay River, something like a halfway house but one that is a safe space where people can live so they do not have to go back to the conditions that brought them there in the first place? This way, the partnerships with industry can be developed in the community, and they can have access to all of those supports. Was this idea considered? Because I know there is an opportunity to do this in Hay River.
Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
Oral Questions
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Louis Sebert Thebacha
I can advise that there was some discussion or thinking about a halfway house model in Hay River. One of the issues that concerned us, however, was that not that many of the residents at SMCC would likely have as a home community Hay River, so that was seen as an issue, but certainly we did think about it. Thank you.
Question 838-18(3): South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Therapeutic Model
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The Speaker Jackson Lafferty
Masi. Oral questions. Item 9, written questions. Item 10, returns to written questions. Item 11, replies to the Commissioner's opening address. Item 12, petitions. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. The Honourable Premier.
Tabled Document 504-18(3): Toward a Plan - Strengthening Canada's Position in the Arctic
Tabling Of Documents
August 20th, 2019
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Bob McLeod Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table to following document entitled "Toward a Plan - Strengthening Canada's Position in the Arctic." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Tabled Document 504-18(3): Toward a Plan - Strengthening Canada's Position in the Arctic
Tabling Of Documents
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