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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those opposed, please rise.

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Committee Clerk Of The House Mr. Rutland

The Member for Kam Lake, the Member for Nahendeh, the Member for Yellowknife South. Yellowknife North, I'm sorry.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

One second. Can we have the microphone back on the clerk to correct that last count?

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Committee Clerk Of The House Mr. Rutland

Yes. It was the Member for Yellowknife North, not the Member for Yellowknife South.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. All those abstaining, please rise.

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Committee Clerk Of The House Mr. Rutland

The Member for Frame Lake, the Member for Yellowknife Centre.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

The results of the recorded vote are: 11 in favour, three opposed, two abstentions. The clause is carried.

---Carried

To clause 52. Minister Abernethy.

Committee Motion 229-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Delete and Replace clause 52(1), Carried
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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that Bill 34 be amended by deleting subclause 52(1) and substituting the following:

52(1) Subject to this section, the holder of a mineral lease shall enter into an agreement for benefits in accordance with the regulations with each Indigenous government or organization that the Minister considers appropriate in the circumstances:

(a) If an undertaking authorized under the mineral lease meets the prescribed threshold; and

(b) When required by regulations in respect of a production license under subsection 46(3).

Committee Motion 229-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Delete and Replace clause 52(1), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion. Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The intent of this motion is it commit the timing of a benefit agreement that has been linked to a production license. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

To the motion. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Committee raised these concerns around the vagueness, and I want to commend the government on trying something here to give some more certainty to the provisions that surround benefit agreements with Indigenous governments and organizations. I think this is a much more precise point in time. It ties it to production licenses, unlike the current wording of the act, which is to a production project, which isn't clearly defined. The (a) part of the clause clearly connects it with the life cycle of mining work, so I think this is a needed improvement to provide that level of specificity and clarity to industry and to Indigenous governments, as well, and to anyone who is interested in knowing when these requirements are going to kick in under the legislation. So I support this clause. Thank you.

Committee Motion 229-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Delete and Replace clause 52(1), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Next, to the motion, Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Yes, during the review of the bill, I raised the issue of what was the definition of "production project," because there is none in the bill, and I think that created unnecessary uncertainty. So I'm glad to see that the Minister is prepared to clarify this. I had my own motion at the clause-by-clause review to deal with this; the Minister would not concur with it, so it didn't go forward. So I'm glad to see that something I said in the clause-by-clause has actually made its way to the floor of the House.

I guess lastly, Mr. Chair, it's rather ironic that we're going to get precision in Indigenous government benefit agreements, the kind of precision that should have been brought to the benefits for all the people of the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. To the motion.

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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Question has been called. Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to request a recorded vote.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

The Member has requested a recorded vote. All those in favour, please rise.

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Committee Clerk Of The House Mr. Rutland

The Member for Great Slave, the Member for Yellowknife South, the Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, the Member for Hay River South, the Member for Thebacha, the Member for Mackenzie Delta, the Member for Sahtu, the Member for Yellowknife North, the Member for Kam Lake, the Member for Frame Lake, the Member for Deh Cho, the Member for Nunakput, the Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, the Member for Range Lake.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those opposed, please rise. All those abstaining, please rise.

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Committee Clerk Of The House Mr. Rutland

The Member for Yellowknife Centre.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

While we're waiting for the results of the recorded vote, I just want to thank all the staff who have to stick around with us here tonight; the staff in the back, the guys in the booth, security, everyone else who is working here who I don't even know about. Sergeant-at-Arms, the Speaker, all of them.

The results of the recorded vote are: 14 in favour, zero opposed, one abstention. The motion is carried.

---Carried

Minister Abernethy.

Committee Motion 230-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 52(2) by adding (1.2), Carried
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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move a motion that Bill 34 be amended by adding the following immediately preceding subclause 52(2):

(1.2) For greater certainty, the holder of a mineral lease must satisfy the requirements in subsection (1) in respect of an Indigenous government or organization identified under that subsection by entering into any agreement with the Indigenous government or organization, provided that the agreement

(a) contains terms in respect of benefits that will be provided to the Indigenous government or organization and its members; and

(b) otherwise meets the requirements of this act and the regulations.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 230-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend subclause 52(2) by adding (1.2), Carried
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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion. Minister Abernethy.