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Committee Motion 231-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 53, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. To the motion.

Committee Motion 231-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 53, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Clause 53 as amended. Clause 54. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

I had a question to the Minister on clause 53. Will that be allowed, Mr. Chair?

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

We haven't considered the next clause yet, so I can allow some questioning on this. Mr. Testart.

Committee Motion 231-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 53, Carried
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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This section, clause 53 deals with a change in material, a material change to an undertaking authorized under the mineral release. Can the Minister just explain clearly what this section contemplates because I think there's a concern? What does a material change look like, and does that mean an entire benefit agreement needs to be shifted to reflect that change? Can the Minister just explain how this would play out? How the department envisions this to play out in reality? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Ms. Faryna.

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Faryna

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The intent on this section is to ensure that there is an enabling authority to allow us to address material changes. This is because we heard from both Indigenous government and organizations and industry that material changes is a very sensitive issue right now with regards to certain agreements, and therefore, I think we will need to work together with all interested parties in order to determine the content of these regulations. The enabling authority there is to allow us to deal with it so that we know we have the power to address it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 231-18(3): Bill 34: Mineral Resources Act - Amend Clause 53, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The idea here is if there is a change in material, a material change, and that shifts the -- let's use the example of an agreement signed, an agreement that's authorized, that's signed pursuant to a land rights agreement that has been accepted by the Minister. There's a change in material circumstances. I see where you are going, Mr. Chair. Does this just mean that an agreement can be amended if it's brought forward as changed, or does this mean the regulations will be drafted in a way that the government can force changes, if the government notes a change in material circumstances? Who's driving this? Is it the two parties who signed the agreement, or is it the government through its regulations? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Ms. Faryna.

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Faryna

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As I said, this is an enabling authority to allow us to make regulations, and within those regulations, we will have to have greater discussions with both Indigenous governments and organizations and different stakeholders including industry in order to find the appropriate rules and requirements around this. The intent, or I guess the idea behind it being that if there's a material change to the project, then perhaps, there might be an adjustment needed to be made in terms of which benefits that project should provide. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Nothing further.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Fifty-three as amended?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Clause 54. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you. Can the Minister just provide clarity on how the dispute resolution body will operate, or will operate pursuant to this clause? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Ms. Strand.

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Strand

Thank you, Mr. Chair. With respect to 54, the dispute resolution body, we will be engaging with our Indigenous partners on how we envision this clause working in the regulations. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Will industry be engaged as well? I thought this was to resolve disputes between industry and Indigenous partners. Are we just going to engage one side of the equation here? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Ms. Strand.

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Strand

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, it will be with our Indigenous partners and industry to find that balance. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Testart.