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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I don't think the Premier understood my question, so I will try again. Is there a policy? Are there guidelines? What is the document or the authority that says that legal considerations need to be discussed in an FMB submission? Is it possible that that could be amended in some way to include climate change? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I thought that's what I said, but I'll let Martin Goldney expand on that for me. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Mr. Goldney.

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Goldney

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, there are submission guidelines for both Financial Management Board decisions that are being requested and Cabinet decisions that include some of the factors that the Premier has described, and, yes, it is the expectation that climate change can be added to those factors so that departments are required to consider them when making those submissions and that they'll be assessed and reviewed and advice provided to both the Financial Management Board and Cabinet as they're considering those decisions. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Mr. Goldney. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. That is one tool that will be different. We will still have our environmental economy Cabinet committee, but I took heed that that was nothing changed from the other Assembly. We are looking for change, so we will add the climate change into our decision-making at the Cabinet table. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. How do we demonstrate to the public and how can Cabinet convince Regular MLAs that climate change does become a consideration in important decisions or FMB decisions? How is that going to be documented and reported in any way? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Cabinet decisions are confidential. We won't be reporting on Cabinet decisions. That is something that has remained in Cabinet. However, we are doing the yearly reporting on our climate change action. You will see some of that information in there. You can also challenge us on the floor. You can ask us. Every department, even when I was housing, the whole move was moving into getting more energy efficient. I think our energy rating was 80, if I remember right, and it was getting better, triple-pane windows and solar panels. So that's already happening. It's just a matter of solidifying it. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. Yes, I am challenging the Premier right now about how we ensure where the evidence is going to be, and how the public is to find out about that evidence, that climate change will actually become a consideration in terms of funding new programs, services, infrastructure projects, those kind of trade-offs. I guess that I am hearing that there are some kind of guidelines that might get changed, that there might be a Cabinet committee that looks a little bit different. I am not getting a lot of comfort that this is actually going to result in evidence-based decision-making and some sort of change in the way that we actually do business here.

Maybe I need to have an offline discussion with them, and maybe I don't understand the process clear enough, but there should be either a policy or legislation that clearly sets out that climate change has to be a consideration in major government decisions, and that has to be documented. I understand the need for Cabinet confidences and all of that, but how do we actually demonstrate to the public that climate change is something serious and that this government is actually considering it when it makes decisions? I'm just not really getting the kind of clarity, I guess, that I'd hoped for. Thanks, Madam Chair. I don't really know how much more I can push this, because I just don't detect that we're going to have in place the kind of policy, legislation, leadership that the Auditor General called on us to do to demonstrate climate leadership. Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Like I said, we are working with the other territories so that we are a unified voice. There will be some action coming out of that, public announcements coming out of that. We will be doing a yearly reporting on these issues. What I would like to recommend, Madam Chair, is we are open to listening. If the Member or other Members want to come and provide suggestions, we are more than open to listening to that. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Are there any further questions on "ensure climate change impacts are specifically considered when making government decisions"? Seeing none, committee, we'll move on to page 15, "increase employment in small communities." Questions? Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Looking at this priority, I notice that there is a section here for developing mentorship programs to support emerging entrepreneurs. I am wondering who is involved in this mentorship program, and does it involve northern business owners? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. At this point, I am not sure who would be on the mentorship program. We will have to get back to committee on that, but I think that we are open to have businesses on that. It would make sense. Thank you, Madam Chair. If you want to try the Minister?

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

The mentorship program has not been developed yet, so they are open to any sorts of suggestions. One thing that I have found with ITI is they are definitely not a "this is the way it has to be" kind of department. They are pretty flexible in some -- well, you can ask Kevin, but they are very flexible sometimes in their ways of doing it. When we have been discussing all of these sorts of changes that we are going to be doing, a lot of it will be end user feedback. I have had that conversation a lot with the department, so if there is a need, and clearly, if we are going to talk about business, we'd want mentors to be businesspeople. I don't see why they wouldn't be part of that program.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister of ITI. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I look forward to watching the development of this mentorship program. I think that mentorship is a huge opportunity in the North, especially for people who do want to get into business, but I think that business ownership is far more than being very skilled at a trade. There is an element of being fiscally responsible that is very important, especially when we are supporting people through business development, through SEED money, or anything like that. I think it would be prudent that we make sure that we are setting people up to the best of their ability. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Madam Premier.