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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just on work on behalf of others. Bringing up what my colleague from Monfwi brought up in regard to the healing centres, I know Fort McPherson had Tl'oondih. Inuvik and the Gwich'in, there are two places that we could send people to get help, get healing, and I guess working with that. I've seen so many people, same as him, fall through the cracks in regard to sending them out for treatment. When they come back home, there is nowhere to go. It's a vicious cycle, but it's a cycle of peer pressure and that they make by choice. I think those should be really looked at in regard to trying to help our own people up there, because nothing has been done. Nothing is being done. We could help more people if it's more centralized, say, in the Inuvik area, bring people in from the communities. That's just one of the concerns that I have.

These past few months, with the First Nations and the cancer strategy across our territory, I think what we should be really looking at is: so many people are telling me that they are getting misdiagnosed with cancer. They've been going to the health centre for a year, a year and a half, and they get sent out. They go out to Edmonton, come back, and when they do come back to the community, it's stage 4 cancer. You can't do anything. It's too late. Some of them get stage 2, they did catch it in time, but I'm dealing with a couple of constituents like that. The misdiagnosis is happing too much. I just want to make sure that the Minister is making sure, on behalf of all of our constituents who we serve, and the department, I guess out of Inuvik it would be myself, that the following up of the heading to the Cross Cancer Institute, making sure their appointments are made, especially with this COVID-19 stuff that we have going on, just to follow through. Just a couple of weeks ago, we had one with kidney failure with a misdiagnosis again. It's really tough in our communities, because our health centres do the best that they can to provide the service. We have to rally around that in terms of trying to work together for our constituents to getting them served. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Nunakput. That takes us back a few pages, but I am wondering if you would like to respond to that question, Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I hear the Member's concern, and it is very important. Right now, we have a relationship with Alberta as they take a lot of our patients. It is a combination of making sure, when we catch anybody at a certain stage in cancer, that we do our best. That has been our department's approach, to make sure that they get to their appointment as quick as possible. The relationship that we have with Alberta has been doing great. We are trying to make sure that our patients in the Northwest Territories are just as important as the patients in Alberta, and we have that relationship. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Do you have a follow-up question, Member for Nunakput?

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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just wanted to see, on my first comments in regard to the treatment, if being able to bring it up North, working with the Gwich'in, working with the Inuvialuit, working with communities who want to try to help our own people, is it possible to see if there are any avenues that we could work together, going down that road together? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Nunakput. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I know, in the past, that we have had a lot of treatment programs in our communities. I don't know why they have shut down. That's prior to my time. It is something that we could look at. I do want to say that we provide funding to the Indigenous groups, but we don't tell them how to spend it. When we provide a contribution agreement with them, that's them coming up with their own plan and resources. Most times, they match a lot of our dollars, and they are able to deliver programs that are relevant to them and their culture. We do provide funding; we just don't tell them how to spend it. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Anything further, Member for Nunakput?

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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. No, I think it's time that we do start telling them in regards to how to get treatment, because they're not doing it. It's too much overhead, the costs. The start-up cost is the biggest thing. Like I said, we have two camps up there, three camps, potentially, that closed down due to everything being sent down to Alberta. I am thankful that our territorial government has a good working relationship with Alberta. I am happy for that, that people are being served on a timely basis, but I think it's time that we start taking a look at ourselves within to try to start taking care of ourselves and working together; not just giving them the money and pushing it to the side, thinking it's going to get done, but actually seeing boots on the ground trying to do these programs as a starting point. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Nunakput. That's more a comment than a question. Did you want to respond, Minister?

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

I hear the Member's comment, and I take that as a comment. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Any further questions on this section? Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm on page 180. Hopefully, I'm on the right page.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

You are.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you. This may have been answered yesterday; I had to leave a little bit early. I just want to know: how many people do we have in the South under residential care right now? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Hay River South. Let's see if we get the same numbers today.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

[Microphone turned off] ...Deputy Minister Cooper. It's 119.

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The Chair Julie Green

Deputy Minister, please.

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Cooper

Thank you, Madam Chair. My binder indicates it's 119 adults and 50 children.

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The Chair Julie Green

That is consistent with yesterday's answer. Good. Further questions, Member for Hay River South?

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I had a question from a constituent there a few weeks ago. She has a sister who has been down there for quite a number of years, and whether she's forgotten or whether the government has forgotten about her or not, I'm not sure. Are there any plans to repatriate the people under residential care back to the territories in the South? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Hay River South. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. This is something that our department is looking into. Right now, we have residential care services for those with difficult needs. They have developmental delays. There are complex care needs. We would like to bring them closer to home. Sometimes, the services that we offer are not suitable for them and, therefore, the reason why they are not able to be at home. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just to continue on with that, then, if we can't provide the services here, I'm just wondering: we keep sending people down there. How many people have we brought back because we actually implemented something here in the territories to allow them to come back? How much of that work has been done? Thank you, Madam Chair.