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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just one last comment. I think this is a great idea, but we just have to make sure that we always, like I said when I led in, plan for the worst, and make sure that we have as much built in so we have a protection for any of those worst-case scenarios. Marsi cho.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. Member for Deh Cho.

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Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ronald Bonnetrouge Deh Cho

Mahsi, Madam Chair. I see that this would be used in exceptional circumstances. I guess we are talking about, maybe, this situation as an example, the pandemic. I don't know what other circumstances there would be that we should be aware of, perhaps, because it just could be used at any time. There would be concerns with that, especially when we are looking at determining quorum for a circumstance like this. That's why we need to know what type of circumstances. If we had a list or examples of them in this legislation, or this act, it doesn't go far enough here. It's a broad stroke of the pen here. They can use it anywhere at any time, it seems like.

I would like to see more defined circumstances where this would be used, especially for quorum. The concern there is that it's bad enough that we can't be in person; we're going to be left out of whatever discussions are being discussed at the time. I'm assuming it would have to be an emergency thing, but what is deemed as an emergency? What is it? We need more details on this here so that it's not going to be abused. If we could get more clarification on that, especially for quorum, too, maybe we need more explanation underneath there, so you're not all of a sudden holding a meeting over here and you're leaving me out; that type of thing where we're leaving somebody out. I don't think that's fair if there are going to be discussions on any particular subject.

I am also wondering about the languages, also, whether there would be translation services provided for these. I know languages are very important. We are in the land of the Dene people in the Northwest Territories. I did express that I wanted to see every translator here for this sitting. I didn't get much support, because you didn't need 22; you could have still had 11. You could have accommodated them. It creates employment for the translators, plus it's being translated out there to the public. They are kind of assuring me that they are going to translate documents or translate them in some other fashion moving forward. I don't know if that's even going to happen. Those are questions that I have for this one here. Mahsi.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Deh Cho. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. A couple of points there; I would like to begin with the languages. The intention here is that we will put forward, if we use this technology, we will use software that allows simultaneous translation. All of the other rules that apply to the Legislative Assembly still apply to the Members, the point of privilege, and the rules and procedures committee, as they have rules related to translation would apply in this case. It is completely the intention to allow simultaneous translation if and when we use this.

In regard to defining exceptional circumstances in the act, I want to point out that this is the enabling legislation in the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act. Not everything is contained within this act. There were further details in the rules of the Legislative Assembly, and following this, it is expected to be brought to the rules and procedures committee, and some parameters around exceptional circumstances are to be defined.

As I said in my opening statement, we are really thinking of scenarios similar to COVID-19. Other scenarios, if there were massive forest fire seasons and Members had an inability to travel, it would be similar. The issue of a quorum appearing digitally without Members getting notice and the Speaker attempting to do that is just not possible. It's not a concern that we are going to have some sort of on-the-spot digital sitting without Members having notice and those exceptional circumstances being explained by the Speaker as per the rules set out. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Member for Deh Cho.

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Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ronald Bonnetrouge Deh Cho

That's fine. Thanks.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I support this motion, as well. I think it's time that we take somewhat of a lead in the way we conduct business here in the NWT. We expect students to use video conferencing, and I think that we have to set the example. With respect to exceptional circumstances, and then, further down, we see the Speaker has discretion, there are two variances there in that meaning. I think, if that goes to the rules and procedures committee and gets dealt with, I'm fine with that. I don't really have any questions. I just wanted to make a comment and show my support for the motion. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

I want to go on the record, too, that I do support the legislation. I am not a computer person, but I seem to manage. I seem to get my view out there. I don't want to hold back. We have to be role models, especially when it comes to our younger generations at the high schools and the colleges. I have done that in the community, and I continue to do that. I will never hold back progress. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I think this is a very much needed change in the legislation. I am proud of this Legislative Assembly for putting this forward. My one concern would be in terms of how this Assembly understands why we're putting this forward and what the intent of this is, but in future Assemblies, how do we ensure that the intent of this is consistent, both within this Assembly and to future Assemblies with different Speakers and a different team. I think I am satisfied that this is going to go forward to the rules and procedures committee where that will be discussed. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. I will take that as a comment. Madam Premier.

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Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I think this is a great piece of legislation. It's 2020, and I'm old. I struggle with technology, but my children and grandchildren pick it up from two years old. It's time that we got into the technical world. I am not worried about future Assemblies. I do believe, Madam Chair, that this is the way of the future. This is proactive, and we are part of that future. I adhere to that. I also know that, with COVID-19, we are looking at possibly a second wave in the fall. If that happens, it would be necessary for us to go right back into confinement. If we are in confinement, there is legislation that says we have to meet a certain amount of times in this House. This will actually address that and make sure that we are all obeying the law and able to perform the duties that we need to do as an Assembly. I am 99.9 percent in favour of this. The only half percent is my own inadequacies with technology. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Madam Premier. Are there any further comments to this bill? Can we proceed to a clause-by-clause review of the bill?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Committee, we will defer the bill number and title until after consideration of clauses. Please turn to page 1 of the bill. Clause 1, does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Clause 2, does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

We will now return to the bill number and title. Members, Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Committee, to the bill as a whole. Does committee agree that the Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, is now ready for third reading?