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This is from the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was yellowknife.

Topics

Members Present

Mr. Blake, Mr. Bonnetrouge, Ms. Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Ms. Cochrane, Ms. Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. Norn, Mr. O'Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Mr. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Ms. Thom, Mr. Thompson, Ms. Wawzonek

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The Chairperson (Mr. Blake Jr)

Good morning, everyone. I would like to call the Territorial Leadership Committee to order. Before we begin, I would like you to rise, and I would like to ask Mr. Thompson to lead us in the opening prayer.

Prayer
Prayer

August 27th, 2020

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The Chairperson (Mr. Blake Jr)

---Prayer

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The Chairperson (Mr. Blake Jr)

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. This is the third meeting of the Territorial Leadership Committee for the Members of the 19th Legislative Assembly. All Members have a copy of the agenda for today's meeting in front of them. In addition to the agenda, all Members have a copy of the previously agreed-upon guidelines and procedures for this meeting of the Territorial Leadership Committee. These guidelines and procedures maintain the existing geographic balance on Cabinet. As such, only Members from Kam Lake, Great Slave, Frame Lake, Yellowknife Centre, and Yellowknife North are eligible to stand for this Executive Council position. To confirm, does committee still agree with these guidelines and procedures?

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The Chairperson (Mr. Blake Jr)

Mr. Norn.

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Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you for your indulgence, Mr. Chairperson. I disagree with this convention, and if you would allow me to speak to this, I will speak to that.

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The Chairperson (Mr. Blake Jr)

Mr. Norn would like to speak to the convention. Mr. Norn.

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Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marsi cho, Mr. Chairperson. After looking at this and thinking about this very thoroughly, I do have whom I consider Yellowknife constituents in the communities of Ndilo and Detah, which are within Yellowknife city limits, and I believe that I could stand and put my name forward for this nomination.

I will share this story with the other Members. Just before Christmas, we sat down as Yellowknife MLAs. We talked about different initiatives, that we could use our budgets to take part in Yellowknife events in Ndilo and around Yellowknife, and I agreed at the time. Then it came apart, and this is, kind of, a little bit humorous, but it's not. We talked about Christmas cards, and, okay, sure, we could have all the Yellowknife MLAs sit and take pictures, and we could all show to our constituents around the Yellowknife area that we are Yellowknife MLAs, and I thought, okay. I said yes originally, and then I thought, you know, I do have constituents in Lutselk'e and Deninu Kue. I don't think they'd appreciate that, so I declined.

After thinking about that, if I am good enough to be part of that conversation, to use my budget for Yellowknife events and to be part of a Christmas card, I think that I am good enough to be part of this nomination process. I thought I would just share that with you, and with that, I would like to see how my colleagues stand on this matter. Marsi cho.

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The Chairperson (Mr. Blake Jr)

Thank you, Mr. Norn. I open it up for discussion. Mr. Johnson.

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Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairperson. The two from the North, two from the South, and two from Yellowknife protocol has been in place for many years. It is a semi-constitutional principle of consensus government. It simply cannot be changed without much thorough discussion. This is, in fact, on our Caucus agenda for this upcoming weekend, the principles of consensus government.

When we were talking about the southern candidates, Mr. Norn could have put his name forward previously. There was never any discussion about whether he could put his name forward for Yellowknife in the previous TLC. To now say that he is a Yellowknife MLA, it essentially removes a candidate from the southern constituencies, which already has the least number of MLAs. We need to keep that balance of having an appropriate number of MLAs in the South, Yellowknife, and the North.

This conversation has previously happened. The Legislative Assembly set out how this TLC would occur. I don't believe we need to be having this discussion. Let's have the TLC. Thank you, Mr. Chairperson.

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The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Mr. Norn, we will finish off with you after everybody speaks. Any further discussion? Ms. Cleveland.

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Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairperson. I feel that one of the most important parts of what we do here is inclusion and making sure that we have diversity at the table and diverse representation at the decisions that are made. My fear in making this decision today, I feel that it is a much bigger decision that does need to happen. I'm happy that it's on a Caucus retreat for the weekend, but I feel that my biggest fear is that, down the road, in a future Assembly, that somebody will decide that the two, two, and two doesn't need to hold. My fear would be that representation of everybody from all regions doesn't hold and that a region like the North, which has the lowest population in the Northwest Territories but has some of the biggest challenges in the Northwest Territories, ends up with the least amount of representation at the table, and that would be devastating. I think that it is really important that we end up with equal representation of all of our regions at the Cabinet table. Thank you.

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The Chairperson (Mr. Blake Jr)

Thank you, Ms. Cleveland. Any further discussion? Mr. Lafferty.

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Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Masi, Mr. Chairperson. [Translation] Today is a very important day. When we speak about conventions, this has been an issue in the rules and regulations forever, and sometimes there are changes. So far, we have had a Premier from Yellowknife for three terms. There could be changes for Tu Nedhe and Wiilideh. We have a Member who is part of Yellowknife, Fort Resolution, and Lutselk'e, as well.

If we take a look at the whole process, the whole territorial government, when Yellowknife was created back in the day, these are the most important people here who we are living among. When you look at Tlicho, they are important, as well, but it's never important, it's never an issue that we should be able to respect and listen to these people who have been here forever. This has been an issue for all people, with the Yellowknives Dene and Wiilideh, as well, and it is very important that we listen, but at times, it's like we never listen to them. They are living right here among us. Sometimes, they come to our meetings. They have a ceremony for us, drumming for us, and yet, we don't recognize that.

When we look at Wiilideh, at that riding, Joe Handley and Bob Bromley, they are from Yellowknife, and now Yellowknife North, and he sits now for Yellowknife Ingraham Trail, and yet, it's considered as Yellowknife. When you look at Ndilo and Yellowknife, that's part of the City of Yellowknife. We have issues with them. We deal with them. There are programs of all sorts, working on the roads, doing the paving. So what do we do? They're part of the municipality service, as well, with Yellowknife. They also have programs with Yellowknife.

Mr. Chairperson, so many times I have brought these issues before. If it's only for a Yellowknife riding, we cannot leave one out. When I look at this, when I look at it, we should have all aspects of people who want to be able to run. That would be appropriate. We saw what has been going on this week, and now we are here. So what do we do? When we are going to be able to select, we should be able to look at this whole process again. This is what I would like to see. Right now, I would be able to stop. When we speak, like right now, when we see, we would be able to bring this up again. I would like to make an issue out of it and leave it at that. Thank you. [Translation ends]

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The Chairperson (Mr. Blake Jr)

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Any further discussions? Ms. Cochrane.