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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess I have some reservations about this line item. You know, on one hand I am a huge fan of pedestrian infrastructure, and I think the more we can do to encourage people to walk and cycle the better. On the other hand, I -- this is, you know, a few hundred meters of trail for $400,000. I'm struggling to see it as a bit of a priority. I'd like to hear from the Speaker about is this just the reality of what a trail costs to construct these days, $400,000, or do we have some reasoning how we got to such a high number? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just to break it down,

  • The materials alone is $75,000;
  • Installation is another $75,000;
  • Tree removal is $40,000;
  • Signage, $15,000;
  • Contingency, I want to say, $41,000;
  • Design is $35,000; and,
  • GC 20 percent, $49,000.

So that's our breakdown of the costs.

The other thing we have to look at is, you know, let's say if something happened to a pedestrian, then the lawsuits that we could foresee would be probably in the same area. So that's something we're trying to limit. And so I just thought I'd add that thinking. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Any further questions, comments? Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. So if I'm understanding correctly, this project is basically for safety reasons, is that right? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Madam Chair, that is correct.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, I guess, you know, it is $400,000 and I would ask if there was any consideration, you know, to using signage that says, you know, this isn't -- no pedestrian, you know, foot traffic allowed on that road and direct them to the new -- or redone path there that's over to the west. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you. Maybe I'll just turn this to Sergeant-at-Arms. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Thagard.

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Thagard

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, we've included funds for signage to direct folks to the pathway and off the roadway. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess what I was getting at was that was instead of building a new pathway is to direct them to the existing pathway on that side. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Since the installation of the pedestrian walkway from the main entrance for the capitol area Highway 4, the Legislative Assembly started planning since then to make an adjacent trail that maybe the Sergeant-at-Arms wants to add anything. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Thagard.

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Thagard

Thank you, Madam Chair. So the safety issue was exacerbated by the crosswalk that was put in because of the development across Highway 4. So it was created to address the safety concern of people crossing the highway to get over to the site, the capitol area, the roadway system for the Legislative Assembly and the museum. However, all it did was bring people over from -- it addressed one safety concern, and then it created another one. So we bring them across the roadway safely, get them onto the capitol area site, and then we are still putting them on a roadway, moving them around the site on a roadway, which was not ideal. I mean, so we're just kind of now addressing that secondary concern that has resulted because of that. So signage directing them to the existing trail system is certainly an option. It would take them a long way around and they'd have to make their way down and around to connect with that trail and then make their way up to the Legislative Assembly.

We've noticed over the years that people generally will take the shortest route possible to get where they're going. So nine times out of ten, they're not going to go that way. In our experience, they're just going to come up that roadway as they are now. And of course, in the winter time that safety concern gets even worse with the accumulation of snow on the side of the roads, it gets a little bit narrower, and it's just a concern that we'd like to address to bring people to the building safely. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. You know, I see where you're going with this, and like I walk it pretty often. I'll always take the roadway, well wintertime, the shortcut, short way. Summertime, the longer way. But the other thing I guess is if there is a new trail, and maybe I missed it, but will there be lighting on the new trail as well? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Hay River South. Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Yes, Madam Chair, there will be, yes.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And I guess last question is we still have the roadway going towards the museum, and I don't think there is a walkway; you have to walk on the road. Is that going to be -- is that further down the road where there will be a walkway going along there as well? Thank you, Madam Chair.