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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you for your comment. I'm looking at the extension of cell services among the highways that we do have. I also think about the winter roads that we do have throughout the territory, but looking at spot devices and OnStar satellite phones, we look at those land lines and cellular connections. It's limited throughout the territory. The department does work with residents to try to find an alternative solution, but it's not something that we really -- we don't fund those approaches, but then we try to educate and work with residents on finding alternative solutions in the time being. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. No, I appreciate that there are different systems out there. I think what I'm asking for the Minister to do is to lobby her colleague at the Department of Finance to put in some added cell towers and make cell service accessible on all of our highways. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will have that conversation with my colleague. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Are there any further questions? Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. As is my favourite question: can I have an update from the Minister on the status of fire services for the Ingraham Trail? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. This is the famous question that I've been getting a lot of comments on, looking at the approach that we're going to be taking with the Ingraham Trail. I will have Mr. Schauerte respond. Thank you.

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The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Schauerte.

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Schauerte

Thank you, Madam Chair. We are very close on finalizing an engagement approach for residents on the Ingraham Trail and line up our communication materials on this. We also know that this is not just about Ingraham Trail, that emergency services outside municipal boundaries is something of interest in many communities in the Northwest Territories. Our communication, our engagement approach, I anticipate that it will include opportunities for all residents to be in on this issue.

Our intention is, in the month of March as we sort of put the finalizing T's on our engagement documents, is to go out and use a variety of tactics to talk to residents in the month of March. We are recognizing that large, in-person gatherings or focus groups or those kind of things may be certainly challenging in the current environment, so we're looking for IT solutions and those kind of things as well as opportunities for residents to contact us directly on this issue.

Following that, we expect to be putting together some type of summary document. I would expect that to happen in the late spring after we've completed our engagement. Essentially, what we want to do is go out there and talk to the residents about the type of options that may be available for emergency services. I would preface this by saying that emergency services on the Ingraham Trail appear to be a very costly option, so there are no easy solutions with this topic. We're not quite sure what we're going to hear from the residents on this. Suffice to say, we will take their feedback and come forward with a recommend approach of how we ought to be approaching this kind of service in that area.

Again, we're mindful that any approaches that we identify through this exercise, we would strive to at least try to see that these are replicatable in other areas of the NWT, so we're mindful of that, as well. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to read from Hansard where the Minister has repeatedly said, "I am confident that we will reach something by that deadline," that deadline being April 1st. I recognize there are needs outside of all of the territories. I fully support us finding those agreements with every single municipality that has to provide services outside of a boundary. In this case, people's insurance is either going to either expire or go up on April 1st. I have repeatedly said that the only possible solution now, given we have about five weeks, and I don't even know if it is possible given that the city's timelines and how their services work would be in agreement with the City of Yellowknife. Are we going to have an agreement with the City of Yellowknife to continue fire services on an interim basis by April 1st? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of MACA.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. This is a conversation that is happening currently, but I don't want to put anybody to commitment. The conversations are happening. We are very cautious of April 1st and looking at the fire services that the city no longer wants to provide to Ingraham Trail. We're looking also at the financial implications that this may have for residents within the Ingraham Trail and maybe, possibly, residents outside, and how are we going to pay for the service? Looking at the numbers, we're going to have to be combining and putting that together, but also recognizing, this is outside of the municipal boundary, and looking at the training and the equipment and all that needs to be entailed with the fire services. There was also the conversation of having fire services provided out of Dettah for Ingraham Trail, as well, but we also looked at the timing of a fire rescue, the time that it would take to get out there, the training, the commitment, the equipment. We're working with Ingraham Trail, and like Mr. Schauerte had said is that we're looking at the consultation to happen with the people that are at Ingraham Trail right now. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to quote again, the Minister's answer. "There was consultation that was just recently completed. I should be able to provide an update to the Member by the end of February." We're in the last week of February here, and I'm hearing that an engagement plan is just going to be started and then we will consult. Can I get the Minister to correct the record? Was there actually any consultation with residents of the Ingraham Trail? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, that is a correction. There was no engagement that had been done yet, and I will have Gary just elaborate on where we are for that current status. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Schauerte.

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Schauerte

Thank you, Madam Chair. It is our intention to go out and publicly engage with residents during the month of March with some idea of where we want to go in April with a recommended approach. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Mr. Schauerte. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. Listen, I fully support the engagement work. I fully support working with Dettah to bring their fire services online. I support working with every other community. I think there's a big question of how taxes work on the Ingraham Trail and where that money goes, whether there should be a fire levy for services. In the past, the city used to charge, if you called a fire truck, you actually paid the City of Yellowknife a few thousand dollars. There are options. Those options and that work is not going to be completed in the next few weeks, and there is no way that this continues without agreement from the City of Yellowknife. My question is: has the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs made an offer to compensate the City of Yellowknife to continue fire services on an interim basis pending all of that other work? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Minister of MACA.