This is page numbers 2439 - 2492 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Carpenter

Thank you, Madam Chair. I mentioned earlier that we've made significant changes to our purchase programming that will enable people in public housing to transition to home ownership. We think that is going to have a positive impact in all the rural and remote communities, even Sachs Harbour. We do have people waiting for us right now to convert. We're just putting the final tweaks on our systems. They are just days away, and we're going to reach out to those folks. I am aware of the household in Sachs Harbour. We've been in contact with them, and we're going to be ready to go with them very shortly. It's going to be a positive thing for those communities. I think, where there are homeowners who have the incomes to transition, want to transition, then we'll make it happen. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Nunakput.

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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. I thank the deputy minister for that. I really would like to make sure that, in regard to seniors aging in place, are the LHOs in the communities helping them to provide tanks, any home repairs, any programs? Are the LHOs providing that service to make sure that any of the programs that the housing authority is providing, are they reaching out to the community, and how are they doing it? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. The programs are provided by the district offices, and the LHOs are there just as guidance to the district offices. I will have Mr. Carpenter respond. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Carpenter.

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Carpenter

Thank you, Madam Chair. As part of our promotion and work to transition as many people to homeowners as possible in rural and remote communities, part of the success is if they have access to services and supplies. In those small communities, I mean, I've lived in them and they don't have hardware available to them. Right now, it's kind of ad hoc. We're going to formalize that, that they can buy parts from us or access parts and supplies through our programming. In terms of services, same thing. Just the one thing we have to watch for is that we're not interrupting any local business. In those cases, we will utilize the local business under our programming. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Nunakput.

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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you. The community housing support initiative co-investment fund, how does that work? Say, we've been pushing for elders' facilities, like homecare for elders in the communities. Ulukhaktok and Paulatuk are looking at it, and potentially Tuktoyaktuk. How does the uptake on that, to work together, build it and they will come? Or work with somebody who is able to build it, and then the co-investment, are they able to take on the lease, working with the community, say the community corporations? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. The co-investment fund is accepted per application and the Housing Corporation supports the initiative of the completion of those applications, but the determination of looking at seniors' housing to be available, that would be a community initiative project. We have several throughout the Northwest Territories. The staff has been travelling throughout the territory and acquiring different types of housing needs specific to what they are applying for. I'll have Mr. Carpenter elaborate. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Carpenter.

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Carpenter

Thank you, Madam Chair. The difficulty with the co-investment fund is that it's capital funding and it's not operational funding, which is difficult even for us to provide. In terms of the Member's questions related to seniors' units in the Beaufort region, absolutely, there is a strong case. Definitely, Ulukhaktok needs one; even Paulatuk. We've got a pretty good one up in Tuktoyaktuk already, but it's the O and M, so we have to be a bit creative. We are, on our end, trying to work with different stakeholders in the region to get capital or through different federal pots. We certainly could build those big centres there, I think, and convert some of our existing units used for seniors for other purposes, such as there is a huge demand in the region of housing for professionals, such as teachers; a big need up there that we have to find creative ways to get housing in there. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Mr. Carpenter. Member for Nunakput.

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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. If we are able to find builders to come and build it, they will come, seriously, in regard to getting either elders' facilities, two-bedroom houses, nine-plexes, or something like that. Is there any funding that we could tap into with the community to access these dollars to make it happen, like for the mortgage and pay the rent through ECE? You know, for elders, anyway. Something to work with like that, is that available? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll have President Williams respond. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Mr. Williams.

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Williams

Thank you, Madam Chair. Certainly, co-investment is the avenue. It's capital dollars that are allocated. For Indigenous governments, it's up to 95 percent. We want to reach out, and we have been reaching out, to our Indigenous partners. Actually, there is a session coming up in the Beaufort-Delta next month, I believe, where we're going to be reaching out with the community corporations. We're going to host a meeting in Inuvik for GTC and IRC, just to get interest in co-investment because, really, what I always envisioned is the Indigenous development corporations would have a big role to play on those deliveries. We had discussions, preliminary discussions, with IRC, and there is an interest. They know there is a need in Ulukhaktok, and they are willing to push something forward. It's just the next step is to have discussions on co-investment and how they could access that funding, to put their business case forward. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Nunakput.

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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. No. I just look forward to that. I always bring up our community corporations because every community in my riding has a community corporation, has a business and development corporation, and I know that they would be willing to work with this co-investment. I look forward to hearing back from the Minister and her department in regard to that meeting next month and the uptake of those projects that could come available. That is just a comment. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Are there any further questions to programs and district operations? Seeing none, thank you, Members. There is an additional item, I think, that Member Johnson already spoke to on page 386, so the lease commitments. If there are no further questions to that one page, I would like to thank the Members. Please return now to the departmental summary found of page 369. Any final questions? Thank you. Does committee agree that consideration of the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation is completed? Mr. Norn.

Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marsi cho, Madam Chair. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the estimates for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation at this time. Marsi cho, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Some Hon. Members

Question.