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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad to hear that this is something that the Minister is looking into. I think that one of the concerns that I have in this area is that the resources seem to be in a lot of different places. I know that Legal Aid does good work, and I know that the court workers do good work. The law resource centre could use a little work. There seems to be a lot of resources in different places. I think the solution here is really bringing them together into some sort of arm's-length law centre, a place that could take on articling students. I know there is talk in this territory of starting a law school similar to Nunavut, a place that you could actually go and have access to a multitude of services. In reviewing this, is the Minister willing to look into how we are currently setting out resources between the Legal Aid commission, the law resource centre, or the Department of Justice, and perhaps there is some room to put them all in one, more public-facing body? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

The Member raises great points. This legal resource centre was initially supposed to be more open to the public on the first floor of the courthouse, but things came up during renovations. It moved up to the fourth floor. He is correct that it is separate from a lot of our other resources. I think that is the type of work that we need to be doing, looking at how we can have more of a storefront, how we can make these services more accessible. As we move forward, I am having those conversations with the department. There is nothing in the works right now, given that we don't have the new offices lined up, and there are costs associated with it and a lot of work that needs to be done. I think these are the kinds of things that we need to be doing as a government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. My questions are for the Minister of Health and Social Services. In my statement, I outlined some of the good work her department is doing on suicide prevention, but I also pointed out some issues around after-care as highlighted by a constituent with personal experience. Can the Minister tell us whether it is normal practice to develop an after-care plan for individuals who have attempted suicide, how such plans are monitored, and what support is available for affected families? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister of Health and Social Services.

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you to the Member for Frame Lake for the question. Once a suicide attempt has taken place, the first step is to assess whether the person requires medical treatment and, as part of the medical treatment, whether the person would benefit from being certified under the Mental Health Act. That would be hospital route. The non-hospital route is to speak with the individual, determine that admission to the hospital is not necessary, and then do a risk assessment with them.

When it is deemed safe for the person to leave the hospital, they take with them a safety plan that includes community-based supports as well as a referral to follow-up services, such as the Community Counselling Program and/or psychiatry. Psychiatry wait times for urgent cases are one to two weeks.

These plans are individualized based on need, but it is important to know that it is up to the person to follow through with these plans and access the supports and services. If the person has not been assessed and in need of hospitalization, then there isn't a way for the Department of Health and Social Services to impose treatment on that person. It needs to be driven by them, and our role is to make sure that they have a full understanding of the supports that are available to them. Thank you.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I want to thank the Minister for that. I am just not sure that someone who has attempted suicide is always in a place where they can accept that kind of advice. There doesn't seem to be, I think, enough support for families, and that is what my constituent has said. Regarding the implementation of the stepped care element of the mental wellness and addictions recovery plan, can the Minister say how the proposed measures will emphasize follow-up on suicide attempts to really improve after-care and support for families?

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

The stepped care approach is not specifically focused on suicide. It's about providing a seamless pathway of care to individuals who are looking for it. There is focus, of course, within this particularly on mental health and addictions. What this approach has enabled us to do is to eliminate waiting lists for care. The care is provided as needed, so it's possible to get a same-day appointment. If you need another appointment tomorrow, you can come back tomorrow. There isn't this old-fashioned way of making a block of appointments once a week for several weeks. The other thing that the stepped care approach does is link the individual with other supports within the system. As I say, the idea is a seamless pathway approach to care where the person is hooked up with both formal and informal supports, traditional and non-traditional supports, so that they can take advantage of those.

The other part of this is an online presence. It has to do with apps. We have a relationship with the Strongest Families Institute, which provides care for families who have children and young people. There's also another app coming right away which is for young people where they can text and email to the service provider and obtain support that way. What we're trying to do here is provide a spectrum of supports. We recognize not everyone wants to use an app, but then again, not everybody wants to sit in a counselling office. We're trying to provide a variety of supports here to support people to obtain and maintain their good mental health.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I want to thank that Minister for that. In the Minister's replies to some email questions that I had sent, the Minister mentioned development of a suicide prevention and crisis response network in partnership with the Northwest Territories Health and Social Services Authority. Can the Minister explain how this partnership will be brought to bear to support communities when a crisis occurs, where these resources will come from, and how communities can initiate the process themselves?

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

It all starts with a critical incident, and the community reaching out to the health authority to ask for help. Once that step has been accomplished, then there's a conversation about what kind of help is required. Then the authority engages with finding those additional supports, whether they come from inside the community, inside the region, from Yellowknife, or from outside of the territory. They try to meet the goals that the community has. Maybe those are one-on-one counselling. Maybe they feel like they need critical incident debriefs or other outreach supports or outreach supports to help them cope with the critical incident that's happened.

This system is in place now. I know it was recently used in connection with an incident in Tuktoyaktuk. What happened there was that a counsellor flew in from Paulatuk to assist the community, and there were people who flew in from Yellowknife to assist the community. The idea is to try and bring together a group of supports who can work at the community's request on healing from the incident that has taken place.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. I want to thank the Minister for that. I know the Minister recently announced a community suicide prevention fund at $225,000 total, and up to $45,000 per project. That would really only help maybe up to five communities. Can the Minister say how this program will be further rolled out, especially in collaboration with our existing staff and counsellors, and how the initial projects are going to be monitored and evaluated? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

The community suicide prevention fund was announced earlier this month, and that's a very short window for spending the money in this fiscal year. There was a commitment to work with communities to fund their projects early in the next fiscal year so that they would get a jump on this. What I do know from the department is: there's been a lot of interest in this fund. I know that there are groups who have been able to finalize proposals and offer their own suicide prevention and intervention programming.

The Member mentioned that $45,000 is the cap. That doesn't mean that every group will apply for that amount of money. Some of the proposals that have come in are for significantly less money than that, so our hope is that more than five communities will benefit. Having said that, this is a brand new fund, and we need to test it out to see if it is the right amount of money. If it needs more money, then we're going to need to talk to Health Canada about more money. It's important for the community-based organization, whether it's an Indigenous government or a non-profit or a community government, to work with local counselling teams to plan the activity that they want funded and to make sure that there is support and connection there for the most effective program delivery. What the department does is focus on the uptake, how many people participated and what did they themselves report as outcomes. Because these are community-based projects and each one can be different, the department is not planning to formally evaluate each of the projects. What we know about suicide prevention is to increase protective factors and address risk factors, and my hope for this fund is that the money will do both of these things. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Question 692-19(2): Homeownership
Oral Questions

March 30th, 2021

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. In the 2007 Auditor General's report on housing, it was found that about 71 percent of NWT Housing Corporation mortgages were in arrears. I'm wondering if the Minister of Housing can let us know what the average annual cost of home ownership mortgages are to the NWT Housing Corporation and including any maintenance or repair costs that the NWT Housing Corporation funds, as well. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Minister responsible for Northwest Territories Housing Corporation.

Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Presently, we have 321 mortgage files; 103 of them, we are receiving payment, and 218 are in arrears. Three of those are in Yellowknife. For the upcoming year, the Housing Corporation plans to invest $5 million into home ownership programming to support private homeowners with their home needs and repairs. The Housing Corporation also is contributing assistance for a residential enhancement care program, $2 million; care maintenance program, $872,000; fuel tank replacement for homeowners, $500,000; Providing Assistance for Territorial Homeownership, the PATH program to homeownership, $75,000; Securing Assistance for Emergencies, $1.5 million; seniors aging in place, retrofits and repairs, $800,000. We're looking at the loans that are given out, as well, and considered to be forgivable loans that are not payable back to the Housing Corporation if the grant and the conditions are met. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Can the Minister also confirm what the annual operating cost is per public housing unit in the Northwest Territories?

Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

As per the audit for 2019-2020, the financial statement, the approximate cost is $62 million. This is for the utilities and maintenance costs for delivery of the public housing program, and it translates to $25,000 per unit per year.

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Does the Minister have any ideas of what the leading causes of mortgage arrears in the Northwest Territories and how the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation intends to address these challenges through their homeownership programs?

Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

The Housing Corporation continues to work very closely with our tenants and supports the collection of rental and mortgage arrears, including developing affordable repayment plans and counselling, as well. As a result of this work, the Housing Corporation maintains a high collection rate of 90 percent. In the 2021-2024 corporate business plan, we continue to make a commitment to maintain that amount to 90 percent of annual collection rates. The Housing Corporation is continuing to be providing repayable mortgages or loans that were established in 2007. Since 2007, the Housing Corporation also continued to collect on these old legacy files. The work also involves entering into affordable repayment plans, where necessary, with existing mortgage clients.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister. Final supplementary. Member for Kam Lake.

Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I am wondering if the Minister can speak to how the NWT Housing Corporation is driving the changes needed for communities to have affordable access to building material, repair, and maintenance within all communities of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

This is a question that was asked throughout the trips that the Housing Corporation made prior to September of last year. We are looking at providing building materials at our local housing authorities to support private homeowners in smaller communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister. Oral questions. Member for Nunakput.