Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess I am happy to see what appears to be the end of the saga of the Norman Wells health centre. We are settling for nearly -- for $4,750,000. I don't even know where to get with this one. Do we have some lessons learned for the Norman Wells health centre; specifically, what caused the delays? I know there was a bit of a debate about how many change orders the GNWT was responsible for but I'm just trying to figure out how we make sure we don't see settlements in our infrastructure budgets again for $5 million. So there's some lessons to be learned out of the Norman Wells health officer settlement. Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, there certainly was, I think, quite a bit of an analysis done to understand the reasons for the delay in this particular case. And that is parts of what went in to, of course, to the process of determining what the appropriate settlement might to be and how the GNWT might approach the problem, first, in the front end of resolving the matter, but also then using that information going forward. So I will again go back to the Department of Infrastructure and the Department of Health and Social Services to confirm how much of that can be provided to the Members confidentially. Obviously, some of that information would have been prepared in the course of litigation preparation. So I just want to confirm that it's not privileged and if it's not, we will certainly get more information to the Member.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Member for Yellowknife North.

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. I guess I feel that there is some public interest here in reiterating the facts here that Clark Builders sued us for $16 million on the Norman Wells health centre, and I believe that is public knowledge; there's a court case. And then we settled for what is now appeared to be $4.75 million. And a lot of the delays, my understanding, were on the GNWT and a number of change orders and disagreements with the contractor. And I believe the Office of the Fire Marshal also caused some number of those delays, which we are also in court with. I don't yet believe that has been resolved, so. I guess I would like a commitment out of the Minister to perhaps provide some more information on what are the lessons coming out of the building of the Norman Wells health centre and long-term care facility. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I think that getting into exactly who was to blame is delving far too closely into what may well be subject to a settlement agreement signed with another party on behalf of -- between the GNWT. So, again, I'm going to take pause on this one but that's not to say that there's not lessons to be learned from projects that run delays and that that opportunity isn't available to the GNWT, just that this might not be the shining moment where we can do that because we have signed an agreement that comes with -- you know, an agreement with the other party to maintain some confidentiality. So I'll go back and look at whether this is a chance to get into the determination as to who owed who what and why; or if, in fact, there's a way to share that with Members with -- not to share with public; or if, in fact, a more general example might be better served for that purpose. The purpose, of course, being to understand with when there's an overage, when there's a delay, why are some of the reasons for that. So that is certainly one that we can look into. Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

No further questions, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Member for Great Slave.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, yes, it's my understanding -- this is quite a large number here, the $22 million for all these projects. However, with the substantive amount being the $13 million of the health centre in Tulita, which I know for a fact is being carried over because of inability to get in and build during COVID, I'm assuming, or there's issues there. So could the Minister of the department maybe speak a little bit to is this normal for this amount of money, or is this generally a lot due to the inability to spend money last year during COVID? Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, you know, with respect to the specifics of this amount for Health, then that may be a question for the Minister of Health. But I think where I'm going here is in terms of just the overages -- or the carryovers generally, then for that, Madam Chair, if I might turn it back over to Mr. Koe to speak to to what extent these carryover are, again, within a range of, quote unquote, "normal". Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Mr. Koe.

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I see that Stanton Legacy building renovations is also in here - a much smaller number, that one's at $3 million. I'm just wondering if the Minister can speak to the timeline on that building and when they expect the building renovations to be complete. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the Minister of Health can speak to that one, please.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. So the commissioning of the building, what's entailed in that and that is about a year-long process, is it? Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister.

Yes, thank you. I don't know what's involved in commissioning but there is a six-month period allocated for it. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Member for Kam Lake.

No, thank you very much, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) No further questions? Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022. Department of Health and Social Services, capital investment expenditures, administrative and support services, not previously authorized, $117,000. Does committee agree?

Thank you, Madam Chair. I recently saw the announcement that we got a contractor for the new fish plant in Hay River; I'm excited to see that. I've heard less about the remote fishery collection stations, and I see the million dollars is being carried over here. Can I just get an update on where those are at and when we can expect to see that work start? Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, this construction work is expected in the current fiscal year 2021-2022. I think with some expectation that it may, indeed, be even as early as this fall but certainly within the next -- within the 2021-2022 fiscals, as I've said will be getting started. And it's a project that has involved -- the collection stations are involving some discussions with communities around the lake, including the City of Yellowknife, Fort Resolution, Fort Resolution Metis Council, the Deninu Kue First Nation, and so the last year was a bit delayed. One of the other delays -- I shouldn't say of course, one of the other delays was with respect to the fact that we do -- the Department of Fisheries and Oceans federally is responsible for what is going on on the waters and there's been some need to have inspections done with them. But that -- I believe we have that all resolved as well. So, yes, that's the reason for the carryover. This is yet another one that has a bit of an echo veil on it too, but it is progressing and at this point, now progressing to complete. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Glad to hear that, and I'm glad to hear we're gone through the DFO inspection process. I know that was not easy for a couple aspects of this. I guess the last public information I have kind of seen on this is in regards to the entire fishery revitalization plan which sets out some idea for the remote collection stations but based on what the Minister said, there seems to be quite a bit of progress. And I guess I'm just looking for a commitment that we get, you know, some public information about where exactly they're going and how large they are and when we can expect to see them operate. I think this is much of good news though and would like to be further updated. Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, Madam Chair, I am happy to provide that update. It's -- I mean, I'm speaking to it because I've been receiving, as Minister of ITI, updates regularly and, in fact, only just quite recently on some of this. So let me put that together and I'm happy to commit to getting more information. It is a good news story and, yeah, there's been some delays but it does seem as though some of that's been worked through now with respect to how to manage the inspections or the requirement of DFO. So we'll certainly commit to getting that out.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

Thank you, Madam Chair. With respect to the fish plant, was there any cost increase because of building costs that maybe have occurred since the original budget? Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Member. Minister.