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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I don't have the financial details here, and I'm not sure if either of the witnesses might have it. There were original cost overages from the original time when the project was first conceived. But in terms of the wording of this contract, I mean, that, I believe, was spoken to at last year's -- or at a previous occasion in reviewing the infrastructure plans. So there hasn't been any changes in the last, you know, several months as far as moving the project forward. But as far as the original costs, the changes in costs, I'll -- I know there were changes to the costs, and I just don't remember what the numbers were. So I'll see if Mr. Koe might know that. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Minister. Mr. Koe.

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Koe

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, the Minister spoke to it quite well. There was an increase to the project budget through the 2021-2022 capital estimates, and the project was increased to about $8.2 million to fulfill the budget or the projected costs of the project at that time. But there have been no increases to that budget as a result of COVID and commodity prices. Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just because of rising cost in material and that, do we have a contingency built in to offset any additional material costs or labour? Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, my understanding is there tends to be contingencies often built in, so I expect that this is no different in this particular project. Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. And with respect to the -- I guess Arcand got awarded the main contract. What amount -- are we looking at having, a lot of majority I guess northern contractors participate in this as well or even local contractors out of Hay River? Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, this is another part of, I think, a good news story with the movement on the Great Slave Lake for fishery revitalization because, yes, my understanding is that Arcand is in fact -- put their materials forward with a lot of local contractors all working together. So perhaps when I provide the update broadly speaking about the Great Slave Lake fishery, that I will see what we can provide on this as well. Again, I think this is actually a good news story of a company that's come together and really looked at how to use northern suppliers in their bid. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Minister. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. With respect to the remote collection stations, are they going to be in communities, closer to communities, or will they be looking at some of the older existing stations they have around the lake, revitalizing those? Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the choices of where the collection stations are to go is a decision that is I think really looking to the fishers themselves to drive that decision-making. And that's where there is now a working group that is being set up and has begun to meet for those who are fishers, again all around the lake. So that exactly on questions like that, that consultation with them, that they are the ones that are actually driving where those sites go. You know, keeping in mind, of course, the role of DFO in that and the role of individual communities that may have -- may or may not be fishers or -- fisher, have many fishers themselves. So, you know, I need to take a pause there and go back but, again, I know that the working group's been meeting and that they are meeting specifically to have these kinds of conversations. Thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Minister. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, I'm pleased to see that this project's finally going to move ahead and hopefully it will do something for the fishing industry and, you know, hopefully we get some sales not only in the territories but in southern Canada and outside of Canada as well. Thank you, Madam Chair. No questions.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Member. Member for Great Slave.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I am also got to throw in my hat to the fishery collection station conversation. One of those areas being looked is the -- is in my riding. It's at the end of the Robertson Road, I believe, at the Con Mine area. I don't know that I have a lot of questions around this but while I have the Minister here, I'm just going to advocate for my constituents, that there is concern about increased traffic in that area. Currently, we are trying to determine at times whose responsibility is it for that area, given that it is still a commercial mine lease is my understanding. And so I often find people between the city and Ministers pointing fingers at whose responsibility is what so I have a lot of concern here about how the determination of that location is going to go. I understand leading it around in different parts with communities and having a different conversation, but I think the conversation with the City of Yellowknife and therefore, by extension, the community of Great Slave is different. And I'm concerned that, to hear that the Members -- or sorry, that the city is being itself engaged but I'm not sure my constituents themselves in that area are being engaged. And I just want to ensure that they have a chance to express their feelings about that as well. And then I also want to know who's going to fix the docks that currently needs work but that might be a different discussion. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, Madam Chair, the information I'm having here, I'm trying to pull up ITI materials in addition to Finance materials as I'm here. But that did -- again, there have been quite a number of conversations with the City of Yellowknife as well as the Department of Lands to determine if some of those exact questions of who owns these sites, what are they zoned for, and what can they be best used for. As far as any discussions that may have been public consultations, I don't have that information here. I will confirm and get back to the Member recognizing that her riding is indeed also one that sits on Great Slave Lake. So -- and as for fixing up dock, I don't have that information on this infrastructure budget but will make a note to consider that as an outstanding question to respond to. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Member.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. Without spoiling the surprise of tomorrow's statements, I did want to point out that the dock does have some immediate concerns, so, and again, while I've got the Minister here and recognizing it's not part of this budget item, I do want to impress that there is potential for environmental issues with the dock's degradation, etc. So before we go about creating a spot, you know, we maybe need to look at some interim issues there. So, again, I'm just taking a moment but I probably shouldn't. So, thank you, Madam Chair.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Member. Minister, do you have anything to respond to that?

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Not today.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Any further questions or comments? Seeing none.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022. Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, capital investment expenditures, economic diversification and business support, not previously authorized, $2,494,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022. Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, capital investment expenditures, tourism and parks, not previously authorized, $3,234,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, capital investment expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $5,728,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Committee, we will now consider the Department of Infrastructure on page 17 and 18. Questions, comments? Seeing none, I'll call the page.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022. Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, asset management, not previously authorized, $32,671,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022. Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, programs and services, not previously authorized, $3,286,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022. Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $35,957,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Committee, we will now consider the Department of Justice on page 19.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I know there has been a couple of delays at getting the South Mackenzie Correctional Centre in Hay River operating, and I'm excited for its opening using the therapeutic model. And I know there's even some concerns about the perimeter fence, which I see it here, for $135,000 meeting the security requirements. But I guess my question is when do we expect that facility to be open?

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd suggest that go to the Minister of Justice, please.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister of Justice.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. And, of course, the facility itself is open. SMCC has been -- there have been inmates there throughout this process. But it would be sometime in the summer, we expect, the therapeutic model to roll out. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you, Minister. Any further questions? Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I'm wondering if the Minister can elaborate on the ventilation and air conditioning retrofit from North Slave. Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Thank you. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

I suggest that go to, again, Minister of Justice, please.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you. I will let the Minister of Finance find her notes on there, because I still have to find mine as well. So perhaps if the committee can just give us a minute, we can get an answer for you. Thanks.

CHAIRPERSON (MS. SEMMLER) Mr. Courtoreille.