Thank you, Members. Please turn to page 46. The department summary, capital estimates, $3,078,000. Does the committee agree? Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks, Mr. Chair, nice try. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the estimates for the Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mahsi for that. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Question has been called. All those in favour? It's a resounding. All those opposed? Abstentions? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Thank you, committee. And thank you, Minister. Thank you, Minister, for your appearance and for your witnesses. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witnesses from the Chamber.

We've got one bill to look after. All right, committee, we have agreed to consider Committee Report 33-19(2), Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environmental Report on Bill 52: Elevators and Lifts Act. I will go to the chair of the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment for any opening comments.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The committee's report was read into the record on Tuesday, October 18th, 2022. At this time, I do not have any additional comments to add to this at this time. Individual Members may have comments on the report. And I would like to thank the committee for their work on this report. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mahsi for that. I will now open the floor to general comments on Committee Report 33-19(2), Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environmental Report on Bill 52: Elevators and Lifts Act. Mr. O'Reilly.

Yeah, thanks, Mr. Chair. I never thought that a bill about elevators and lifts could get this exciting but, you know, when I actually did read the bill and, you know, there's going to be a registry set up in there and an annual report. It looked like during the drafting of the bill that somebody had just kind of taken somebody else's legislation kind of off the shelf and we had kind of redrafted it. And there wasn't anything in there about any of this kind of being public. And so I want to urge my Cabinet colleagues before you bring forward even something as mundane as an Elevators and Lifts Act, that you actually look at this stuff with -- you know, you say we have an open government here. I don't think it was applied to the drafting of this bill. So, you know, you've got an open government policy and you didn't -- I don't think it was applied to this bill. So I want to urge you folks to, even when you're drafting the most mundane stuff, to bring that lens to the legislation that you're bringing forward in the House. Where we have registries set up, make sure that it says that in here in the bill that it's actually going to be a public registry; annual reports that are going to get filed, make sure that they're going to get tabled or placed somewhere in a public fashion. So it's all about proactive disclosure, it's about open government but you need to apply that. Thanks. That's my lecture for today. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Mahsi for that, Mr. O'Reilly. Anyone, committee? No, we're good. Seeing no further comments, Mr. Jacobson.

The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been -- excuse me, Mr. O'Reilly.

Yeah, thanks, Mr. Chair. There's a few things in the recommendation from the committee report that weren't necessarily captured in the committee motion. But the sorts of things that I would expect to see in an annual report that could be made publicly available include things like, you know, the number of permits that have been issued for elevators and lifts, the number of approvals, orders issued, whether there was actually any prosecutions or fines levied, inspections carried out; those kind of things.

The Minister did give us some assurance in the public hearing, the clause-by-clause review, that the details of the annual report would be specified prescribed in the regulations themselves. So that's a heads up to the Minister. And she actually committed to share the draft regulations with the committee ahead of time. So, once again, that's the kind of lens that I bring to these things, about making sure that the public has access to information. So that's the kind of information I think that people might be reasonably interested in knowing. If they have an elevator in their apartment building or something, is it actually in good working order, has it been inspected, they'll be able to go online and get reports and check to see if that kind of stuff is publicly available. So thanks, Mr. Chair.

Mahsi for your comments, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Jacobson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that the committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories proactively disclose the information contained in the registry of the act, described in section 13 of the act, making it publicly available. Thank you --

-- did we vote on the first one? We didn't vote on the first one.

I think we forgot to vote.

Oh shoot. All in favour? Any against? Any abstentions? We're good. Mr. Jacobson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that the committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories proactively disclose information contained in the registry of the Act, described in section 13 of the Act, by making it publicly available. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. O'Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Could we have a five-minute recess? The motions that we're reading are not what's in the report that was read into the record. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

All right. We'll call for a five-minute break. Mahsi.

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All right, committee, I think we're electing to deal with this bill next week. What is the wish of committee? Mr. O'Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I move that the chair rise and report progress.

There's a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order. It is non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

I will now rise and report progress.