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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Neudorf.

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Neudorf

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. Coming into the month of March, we had about 130 employees still on staff with the COVID Secretariat and as the Minister indicated, their employment contracts were timed to end with the end of the public health emergency. So there was about a dozen or so employees that have ended already when the isolation centre, the requirement to isolate following travel, ended and we shut down the isolation centres. The majority of the rest of those employees have employment contracts that end on March 31st. About a quarter of the employees that are hired on casual contracts that would end March 31st, about half of those 130 employees are actually term contracts. So those, both casuals and terms, they would be employees new to the GNWT and generally, they would be -- you know, they don't have another department to go back to. About a quarter, then, of those 130 employees are on transfer assignment from another department and we are working with those other departments to ensure that they have a, you know, properly -- proper landing spot for when their employment ends with COVID Secretariat and they go back to work with their home department. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Yeah, okay, thanks. I was furiously trying to scribble all of that down while the -- our colleague was rhyming off the numbers and so on. But is there a publicly-available document or plan? And look, I get that all of this is happening very quickly, but I think we may need to better communicate some of this not just amongst the MLAs but with the public. So is that something that's in preparation that the Minister is going to be able to share with the public sometime soon? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, thank you for the question. Yes, it's important to let the public know in a holistic way what the plan is moving forward, and I expect to be able to share that information coincidentally with the end of the public health emergency so that people know what the best next steps are.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. Just checking my notes here. How are we going to deal with -- like, I see that there's quite a large number here for purchased services in the last financial year and much reduced. Is that for, like, PP and E, or what's that actually for, and how would that work getting carried forward when we're looking at trying to manage COVID as an endemic? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, thank you. I think for this level of detail, I would appreciate it if you'd call on Mr. Neudorf. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Neudorf.

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Neudorf

Thank you, Madam Chair. So specifically the purchase services line item for 2022-2023, the budget was -- there's a -- some demobilization costs and scaling down of operations is the main expenditure there. Most of that expenditure would be further to boarder camps that we have established for the past year and a half or so, one at the Alberta border, Highway 1, and the other one at the Highway 8, Yukon border, on the Dempster Highway.

In terms of the budget moving forward, it's -- you know, we do expect some realignment of the various line items here to match up with the proposed GNWT response to the endemic as we move past the end of the public health emergency and the GNWT continues with its kinds of continuous readiness approach and the ability to deal with outbreaks in a surge capacity. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. Very quickly, I wasn't really quite -- kind of looking at the right line item. I meant to ask about fees and payments down from 12.7 million to 4.2. What's happening there? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. What I see on this page is that most of this budget in the last -- in the fiscal year that's just ending had to do with isolation centres, which of course, we're not anticipating to need as much of. But there will still be some lease space that we will require. But once again, for the detail, I'll ask Mr. Neudorf through you to answer. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Neudorf.

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Neudorf

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Minister was right that the majority of the cost here is isolation centres, and that's why the number's been high kind of 2021 when we had a significant demand due to travelers and isolation centres. At the end of 2020, we brought in the isolation payment policy that significantly reduced the usage of isolation centres. So even though there's more months of usage for, yeah, the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the total of dollar amount did not go up that much and in fact, our expenditures will be significantly less than the line item that's here because we've been able to control the use of isolation centres. And then the amount for 2023 was the notional amount that we had when we originally set up the COVID Secretariat, we set aside for isolation centres and obviously that money would be used to -- as part of the response to the endemic phase that the government will be moving into. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Any other Members have questions? Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. Can the Minister just speak to any plans to how 8-1-1 will operate past April 1 and any efforts being made to make sure that the people at 8-1-1, although are not public health nurses, are giving the same and accurate advice in relation to public health? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, thank you. We understand that 8-1-1 has generally been a useful service for the public to report the results of their tests and to get information about COVID generally. The hours and the staffing complement will be reduced. We anticipate a lower volume of calls to that number, but we do plan to continue offering that service and we're looking at the scope of services that might be -- or information that might be provided through that service. So that's the plan going forward, that it will still be available; it will be available on days during office hours, and it will provide a range of advice about COVID-related activities, issues.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm happy to hear that. And I was hoping the Minister could speak to whether there are currently any plans or considerations to keeping 8-1-1 kind of as a brand and a product long term going forward. I think there's some natural fits there. Perhaps the health system navigator could be found through 8-1-1 or something similar to health link in Alberta, which, you know, is kind of a service to help people navigate the health system that everybody kind of knows that's a good place to start. Have those conversations been had? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services.