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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the court circuit in Nunakput riding. The Department of Justice and Government of Canada will often complete court circuits throughout the territory. This is a travelling court circuit that aims to provide services to small communities that look to support our residents without removing them from their homes. However, Mr. Speaker, we need to ensure that the communication of the government and our communities can be clear and timely.

These people are using services that are not -- it's not a big secret in the communities when the court circuit is coming to town. When there's a shift in timing or cancellation or a charter, that's the aircraft's being held, and the court party's not staying in the community, especially for the community of Tuk, Mr. Speaker, that we do have a road now but they still tend to use aircraft, and they're holding up aircraft that could be utilized for serving my smaller communities in Nunakput riding. I think, Mr. Speaker, that we do have a road to Tuk. They should be using the road. I don't have a problem, no choice to fly into the communities of Sachs, Ulu, and Paulatuk in regards to servicing them for court services but there I could see both -- all three communities have hotels or B&B that are capable enough to holding the court party. Why is the court party still holding aircraft all day? The cost of that on the taxpayer and not able to stay in the community to help local businesses, especially in the smaller communities of Paulatuk and Ulu, because they do have hotels. Why is the court party not staying there to provide their service, instead of holding a plane at probably $2,000 an hour at 12 hours probably the day, their duty day; it's not right. They should be sharing the wealth instead of just flying back to Inuvik every night for servicing.

Mr. Speaker, I think our Justice Minister -- I did ask him. I had this brought up to me to my attention again because there was an aircraft, delay of having one aircraft down, another -- or sorry, on maintenance and other communities being held up to travel back home. And I don't think that's fair. I think if the court party's travelling to the communities, they should be dropped off and picked up. I will have questions for the Minister at the appropriate time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Nunakput. Members' statements. Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize our two young girls, pages, Gabrielle Nitsiza and Keira Franki of Whati. They're both attending Menzi Community School, and their chaperone, KerryAnne Franki, and Calvin and Suzie Franki. So I would like to welcome and acknowledge them. And I would like to acknowledge all the interpreters that are here from the regions. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Monfwi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Nunakput.

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Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to welcome from Helen Kalvik School in Ulukhaktok, Kaden Okheena and Tobin Klengenberg and chaperone Greg Dunn, and thank the pages for all their hard work they did this week and thank them again for coming down. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Nunakput.

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize my page, Paige Hawthorne, who has joined us here in the House this week from Kam Lake and thank her for all of her hard work. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

I would like to recognize Greg Dunn from Ulu. I became friends with him just by talking to him every day as I was leaving the building and coming in, and I wish him well in the future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Oh sorry, Member for Great Slave.

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Katrina Nokleby

Katrina Nokleby Great Slave

Wrong end of the room. I would like to welcome Natalie Pressman with the CBC that has joined us. It's always nice to have media here. And I can imagine it gets to be quite a long day at times listening to us here. So I appreciate she comes. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

And also very exciting I'm sure.

I too would like to recognize Grant Dunn who is a former teacher in Tsiigehtchic and now in Ulu. And just to let you know, we still miss you in Tsiigehtchic. He had a great basketball program with the students there, and I'm sure he's doing the same in Ulukhaktok.

If we have missed anyone in the gallery today, welcome to the Chamber and I hope you are enjoying the proceedings. It's always nice to see people in the gallery. Mahsi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Acknowledgements. Oral questions. Member for Nunakput.

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My Member's statement today, Mr. Speaker, was the aircraft being held up for the court parties.

Would the Minister just I guess clarify in regards to why are we still holding aircraft in Tuk when we do have a road and places to stay in the community? And why is that -- why are we still holding aircraft because we do need that aircraft for others, to service other communities because we're kind of in a shortage. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Nunakput. Minister responsible for Justice.

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I recognize the Member's concerns. Unfortunately, I don't have that level of detail about the operations of the courts. The travel schedule and those logistical pieces are the decisions of the courts so it's not my decision to make. But I can look into it and get back to the Member. Thank you.

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister convey to the court parties I guess in the territory that just to make sure that proper planning, if not using aircraft that's holding up in the communities to provide service, if he could just let them know that in the communities, every community that they're going to they do have a hotel. Paulatuk has a hotel, Ulukhaktok has a hotel, Tuk has B and Bs and a road, and cost savings for that it would save them money. And, Mr. Speaker, I think that these times I think we should be looking at something like that to be more cost effective across the board. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will make sure that we convey the entirety of this conversation to the courts. We'll provide them with the transcript, and we can have a discussion with them. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister. Oral questions. Member for Monfwi.

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not asking for the Government of the Northwest Territories to allow the Tlicho government to apply on funds for child and youth care counselling. I want to see the government work government to government and transfer child and youth care counsellor positions.

Will the Minister commit to meet with the Tlicho government to develop a timeline for transferring over the child and youth care counsellors to the Tlicho government? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Monfwi. Minister responsible for Health and Social Services.

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Education, Culture and Employment Minister and I, as the Ministers responsible for this joint initiative, have met with education leaders and we have heard firsthand their concerns with the CYCC program. That program is now being evaluated on an expedited basis, meaning that we will act on results as they come in. An example I'll give you of that is changing the job description. Now the job description is oriented to significant post-secondary education. But what we've heard is that people would like more flexibility in the qualifications of the counsellors they're hiring. And so that's an example of the change we've already made. Thank you.

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. Yeah, Mr. Speaker, Tlicho government want our children and youth to be counselled, mentored, and supported by Tlicho people. It is critical that children and youth receive the support from their own people.

Will the Minister of health agree with me that Tlicho children and youth should be counselled by Tlicho people? Thank you.

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we use the standard government hiring process to hire counsellors. There's a job description. The position is advertised. There's an interview and scoring and so on and that's how we come up with the qualifications.

I would like the Member to know that the highest use of the CYCC program is in fact in her region. So students are using the existing program. Thank you.

Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We know GNWT struggles to fill positions in Tlicho region. So why does the government -- GNWT need to keep control over positions they cannot fill? Can the Minister review all the unfilled position in the Tlicho region and work with the Tlicho government to transfer over positions that Tlicho government is ready to take on? Thank you.

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the CYCC initiative started to roll out before the beginning of this Assembly, and it was in a phased process over four years. In the course of that four years, we have learned more about what is effective and isn't effective. So we're now leading a comprehensive evaluation of the program and that will, of course, include looking at vacancy rates, why they are so high. I know that they're not only high in the Tlicho region for health and social services in general but that there are significant vacancies all around the territory, which has forced us to pivot and to become more flexible offering online and virtual, phone and so on options, so that students get the help they need. Thank you.