Point of order.

Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Prior to taking a five minute break, I would like to move that we extend sitting hours until all the items under consideration in committee of the whole are concluded.

Order please. You cannot make a point of order and a motion at the same time. We will take a short break and we will come back. Thank you.

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The committee will come to order. Member for Thebacha.

Mr. Chairman I would like to move that we extend sitting hours until the items that are on the order paper are concluded.

I am sorry, Member for Thebacha, earlier there was a motion to extend the hour and there was also a motion at that time and to extend the hours is out of order. Now it is 6:30. A motion to report progress is always in order and not debatable. All those in favour? Opposed, if any? The motion is carried.

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I will now report progress.

Item 18, report of committee of the whole. Mr. Pudluk.

Mr. Speaker, your committee has made a motion to report progress and Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.

Is there a seconder to your motion? Mr. Nerysoo. The motion is in order. All those in favour? Opposed, if any? The motion is carried.

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Mr. Koe.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to waive the rules to go back into committee of the whole to deal with the items on the order paper.

Unanimous consent has been requested. Are there any nays? There are no nays. I will put you back into committee of the whole to conclude the business of the day, with Mr. Nerysoo in the chair.

The committee will come to order. We are dealing with the matter of motion that has been proposed by Mr. Patterson to amend Mr. Koe's motion. We do not have back the decision and the motion itself, so if we could take a five minute break.

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I would like to call the House back to order. I have had an opportunity to review the amendment that has been proposed by Mr. Patterson and have to rule the amendment out of order. To the motion. Mr. Patterson.

Motion To Amend Motion To Adopt Motion 40-12(1), Defeated

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I now think I see what I did wrong. I would like to move that committee motion 10-12(1) be amended by adding the following words after "adopted": "except for all phrases following the phrase, now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for High Arctic, that a special committee on health and social services be established." Mr. Chairman, with some help, I have been able to arrange for this to be translated. Thank you.

If I might have a moment to look at the motion, the amendment. Before ruling on the matter, I should have the attention of honourable Members. I must indicate to you that like all formal motions we number committee motions as well. The motion that was proposed, the committee motion that was proposed by the honourable Member for Inuvik, Mr. Koe, is committee motion 10 and so as a result of that, the amendment that is being proposed by Mr. Patterson is to amend committee motion 10 and therefore it will amend formal Motion 40-12(1). Now after considering the committee motion, the amendment, I rule the amendment in order. To the amendment?

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The amendment is defeated.

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To the motion. General comments to the motion, committee motion 10? For those, just prior to dealing with this motion, we are dealing with the motion, "Mr. Chairman, I move that Motion 40-12(1), titled establishment of a special committee on health and social services be adopted." That is the motion. Mr. Whitford, to the motion.

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Allooloo.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I get the feeling that most of us agree that there should be some sort of committee established to deal with social issues, since there are a lot of social problems out there in the NWT. I think we all agree that something has to be done to attempt to find solutions that are crippling our communities. But in terms of this motion, I agree that something has to be done, but I am not sure that having the terms of reference in the motion limits us MLAs as to what the terms of reference of that committee should be.

My first question would be, the motion says the a special committee be established; I wonder who would establish that committee? My main concern is that I agree there should be a committee, but in terms of coming up with terms of reference, I think every MLA should be speaking to what the committee should be doing.

Point of order.

Point of order, honourable Member for High Arctic.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We already dealt with Motion 40-12(1) and there is a motion on the floor which says it be adopted. I believe they are speaking for the former motion, not this motion.

Thank you. On your point of order -- actually I was going to say he did have a point of order, but the fact is I was trying to be a little lenient in terms of the interpretation, to allow the Member to express some of the concerns he might have generally on the motion. But the point of order is that the committee motion before you deals with the adoption of the motion and I just did not want to disallow the opportunity for Members to make a few comments. But I agree that had he strayed much further, he probably would have been called to the order of the Chair. Mr. Allooloo, to the motion.