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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Madam Premier, would you like to respond?

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

I think that the Member's comments were what we should do. The on-going proposal to do the renovations are still there, however, I think the Member can be involved. We can evaluate what would be done to the unit, look at the needs, requirements and redirection of space because it is presently in the design stage. We have to have a closer relationship with the Member to make sure we are doing the right thing. I know the Member made a statement that the $952,000 had been wiped out, but it still exists, it is just down the line.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that something is designated down the line for Providence. My point is that we still have other communities in the north that probably need to replace health centres. We have a good facility in Province and I am not complaining about that. We have already said in this House that we are treating every community and every region fairly. I appreciate that there is capital allocation for future anticipated expenditures, but if other communities need it, they should be on the priority list, including Kakisa.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. General comments. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My comment is with regard to the Fort Smith region and capital. Mr. Chairman, on a number of occasions I have talked with the public administrator for the Mackenzie Regional Health Board, with regard to including a facility for one of the communities in my riding. The community I am making reference to is Snare Lake. All they have is a health cabin which has been renovated to meet the needs of the visiting nurse or eye team. They do not have a permanent nurse living in that community. I agree with my colleague for Deh Cho in saying that the other communities which do not have facilities should be considered as a high priority. I agree with him. I want to ask the Minister, I do not see any facility anticipated for this particular community under the Fort Smith region in future years. Has a facility been considered for this community?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, as the Member can appreciate, sometimes it is difficult to maintain a stable five-year plan and be sure that as it proceeds it will stay there. There are a lot of different patterns of where people go and where people stay. We cannot anticipate this. I know there was a multi-year plan which was in place for some time, and included some projections on what you would need and when. For the particular community which the Member is concerned about, in that multi-year projection, it was in 1999.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mahsi. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, the manner in which the department is dealing with capital items for the Mackenzie region is not working. I will tell you why. One of the problems that currently exists is we do not have a board to make sure that the needs of the region are put to the department's directors as required. This is part of the problem. The capital items are not placed as a priority by our government because there is nobody in the region to push for them. We have no board. This is the main reason. My colleagues on both sides of me from Deh Cho and Nahendeh will agree with me. If we had an adequate board in place then those individuals sitting on the board would assess the region properly and priorize the various needs and communicate this back to the department. Then the

department would consider them appropriate. This is not happening. This is why certain capital items are absent from this document.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you kindly, Mr. Zoe. Would the honourable Minister like to respond?

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I think the Member was making a statement. The board does not exist and you are asking me to presume that a board would do that, and I cannot. All I can say to the honourable Member is that if he believes that a board would make a difference, then yes I have to agree with him.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We are on the capital projects. General comments. Fort Smith, total region $125,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Inuvik, total region $518,000. Agreed? Mr. Nerysoo.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Chairman, I know that the standing committee has introduced a motion indicating that the finances for the planning of a new hospital should be considered. I want to ask the Minister if she is knows whether this particular matter has ever been discussed by the Inuvik Health Board, or even suggested in terms of discussing the financing which was agreed to by the federal government? Was it ever on the agenda at any time?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I do not go to all the hospital board meetings and when I was asked to appear as the previous Minister of Health, it was not an issue that was brought up for discussion, although it is very clear that this allocation is out there and earmarked. I know there is a motion. I cannot answer that clearly. We can get the answer to it. I know that on a number of occasions it was addressed even in discussions with Iqaluit. Where does the money go? Does it sit in a special pocket or does it go back into general revenue? I have asked the question several times and my understanding is that it is earmarked. Deciding whether it is put into a separate pot or not is not a matter of it not being designated at a certain time for that particular facility. I would have to get back to the Member with a more detailed response. I know that everyone is aware that those allocations were there.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Inuvik. Mr. Nerysoo.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could the Minister indicate to me if the department has ever explained to the health board that money had been originally allocated to the Inuvik region for a new hospital? In other words, were they told upon transfer that the capital budget of the federal government did indicate $13 million financing for a hospital in 1989? Were they told this?

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The Chair John Ningark

Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I cannot specifically say that, but I know that a number of members of the Inuvik Regional Health Board know about it, because they have asked me about it. I cannot clearly say whether there was discussion on that. Perhaps I can ask Dr. Kinloch as an official of the department, whether there was a discussion and to what extent that knowledge exists within the health board.

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The Chair John Ningark

Dr. Kinloch.

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Dr. Kinloch

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am not aware that the matter has been discussed at a board meeting. I do know that the chief executive officer of the Inuvik Regional Health Board is aware of the arrangements which exist for the capital of a new hospital.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Inuvik. Mr. Nerysoo.