Thank you, Mr. Allooloo. Mr. Koe, can you try to keep that to facts. It will be debated, of course, but try to be careful. Thank you. Mr. Koe.

It is an emotional subject, Mr. Chairman. I would like to comment now, on the top of page two, on the Minister's statement where he talks about the public process for establishing school years.

Point of order.

Mr. Allooloo.

On a point of privilege, could we deal with my point of order, Mr. Chairman?

Mr. Allooloo, I told Fred Koe that we will try to be careful with his presentation and stick to the document, Ministers' Statement 10-12(2), and he already agreed, Mr. Allooloo. He is now presenting his case on the last paragraph of your statement. Mr. Koe.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If I may proceed, on the top of page two of the Minister's statement he talks about the public process for establishing a school year. The Minister is totally correct in his comment that the school year is established by him on the advice of the divisional boards. In service, the issue at point here, is a decision that is made usually in the course of the school year by the director in

consultation with the school staffs in his or her jurisdiction. These in-service activities are unique to each school and are generated through the expression of a need for specialized training in order to implement curriculum as a program. This in service has been going on in the Northwest Territories since schools were built, and until this date never required prior approval by divisional boards, local education authorities, and certainly not the Minister. In point of fact, this sort of in service is usually just reported to the local education authorities by the director before or after the fact. This proceeding makes sense. It is a professional decision. An elected board cannot evaluate its value but has to trust the judgment of their educational administrator. This could be the problem in Inuvik. Not withstanding the 1992-93 guideline for the development of school years, which suggests there should be no in service -- a position that is incredibly short-sighted in view of the cultural mix and differing learning styles of children, and that, if implemented rigidly, will have teachers and classrooms with curriculum that has the philosophical and cultural overtones that require stress in certain areas in which they have had no training.

This is a particular problem in the Northwest Territories where there is a 25 to 35 per cent turnover of teachers. Without specific in service in specific areas, the Northwest Territories students are not getting full value from the system, as teachers lurch through the curriculum, not really aware of the direction or stress required by the varying culture or community.

My last comment refers to the final comments made by the Minister, "That is the way it should be done and I do not see any reason to change this practice." Mr. Chairman, the practice to which the Minister refers is simply not practice. In point of fact, in the Beaufort/Delta Divisional Board of Education region, in January one of the schools in the region had an in-service session for a full school day in co-operative learning, with full knowledge of the director without any request for a modification of the school year or any authorization by the Minister.

Mr. Allooloo.

With regard to my previous point of order, I would like the Chairman to make a ruling on my previous point of order.

(Translation) Right now I do not have information. I would rather look in the Hansard first before I get back to your comments. I will go through the Hansard to see if what is being said is true or not. Mr. Koe.

My point here on the last topic is that preceding types of in service, which I have been referring to, have already been implemented and more shall be, in every region of the Northwest Territories, without all of the rigmarole that is going on in the Inuvik Region. I am left, and the people in Inuvik are left, with the dilemma of what is going on here in terms of who is leading the band, who is giving direction. The direction that has been given is not adequate and is not acceptable, and we find it very irresponsible. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Are there any other general comments? Ms. Cournoyea.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to commend the honourable Member for making such a long and detailed analysis of the statement on the situation. I would like to have the opportunity to review his document and what he has presented. There are a lot of allegations there, a lot of assumptions, and some areas which we are not aware existed or were part of the deliberations. Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that we report progress.

Thank you, Ms. Cournoyea. The motion is in order. It is not debatable. Those in favour of the motion? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

(Translation) Right now I will report to the Speaker to see what he has to say about this topic.

Chairman of committee of the whole, Mr. Arvaluk.

Point of order, Mr. Nerysoo.

I do not believe that the matter has been concluded.

Committee Report 2-12(2) is concluded is what he said. Is there a seconder to the motion? Mr. Nerysoo, now would you second that motion?

---Laughter

The motion is in order. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Item 20, third reading of bills. Item 21, orders of the day. Mr. Clerk.

Mr. Speaker, meetings for this evening: after adjournment, of the standing committee on finance and of the striking committee. Meetings tomorrow morning: at 9:00 a.m., of the ordinary members caucus.

Orders of the day for Friday, February 21, 1992.

1. Prayer

2. Ministers' Statements

3. Members' Statements

4. Returns to Oral Questions

5. Oral Questions

6. Written Questions

7. Returns to Written Questions

8. Replies to Opening Address

9. Petitions

10. Reports of Standing and Special Committees

11. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills 12. Tabling of Documents

13. Notices of Motions

14. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills

15. Motions

16. First Reading of Bills: Bill 14

17. Second Reading of Bills: Bill 15

18. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters:Ministers' Statement 10-12(2); Tabled Document 9-12(2) and Tabled Document 10-12(2)

19. Report of Committee of the Whole

20. Third Reading of Bills

21. Orders of the Day

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned until 10:00 a.m., Friday, February 21, 1992.

---ADJOURNMENT