Personnel, O and M, employee benefits, not previously authorized, $3,768,000. Agreed?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Total department, $3,768,000. Mr. Gargan.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
I just wanted to know what the benefits were. This is for employees' vacation and also for termination; are we talking about the payouts?
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Madam Minister.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, the Member is correct. I will read them according to the financial language. The accumulated annual leave and lieu-time credits amounted to $844,000; resignation and retirement benefits amounted to $1,524,000; the ultimate removal benefits amounted to $1,490,000; for a total of $3,858,000.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Total department, $3,768,000. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Will we now go into clause by clause of Bill 21?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Clause 1, application. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Clause 2, supplementary appropriation. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
expenditures. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Clause 3, purpose of
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Schedule, Vote 1, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $4,204,900. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Total supplementary appropriation, $4,204,900. Mr. Gargan.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before we recommend this for third reading, I would like to express a concern that we have a situation that we are going to be in a deficit this year and we cannot go on into further deficit, especially with regard to benefits, holiday benefits, retirement benefits, payout benefits. I would like to ask if the government is somehow looking at this whole business of benefits for civil servants, because it is an exorbitant amount and we cannot afford it at this time of restraint. We cannot be supporting the public service at the expense of the communities. I think this government is going to have to take a bold step in this area and say we cannot afford these benefits any longer. At one time it used to be an incentive to attract people up here, but that is no longer the case. If people are dedicated enough and wish to work up here, they should do it for whatever the offer is and not because of the benefits. Perhaps the Government Leader may want to respond.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Madam Government Leader.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the Member for his comments. Those particular issues right now are on the table with the collective bargaining units that are presently in negotiations and yes, we fully agree that we have to catch up to the 1990s and move into the future with some confidence, and we hope that in these negotiations there is a recognition by the employees of the GNWT that we need their co-operation as well. So certainly, if we are not able to conclude, we will be keeping the Members informed of what is going on with those collective agreements which are being negotiated at the present time. Thank you.
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Total supplementary appropriation, $4,204,900. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
The bill as a whole?