Municipal and Community Affairs, capital, sport and recreation, not previously authorized, $210,000 surplus. Agreed?
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Agreed.
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Total Capital, Agreed
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Total department, $2,954,000 surplus. Agreed?
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Agreed.
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Department Of Health
Supplementary Health Benefits, Total O and M
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Health, O and M, supplementary health benefits, not previously authorized, $2,869,000. Agreed? Mr. Gargan.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
When are you going to recover this from the federal government?
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Mr. Pollard.
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John Pollard Hay River
It is billed monthly. We anticipate getting it this fiscal year.
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Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Will the federal government reimburse the territorial government for funds expended for health benefits?
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Mr. Pollard.
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The agreement is with Health and Welfare Canada, and there is no dispute on that, so we anticipate to get paid.
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Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Part of our reason for a deficit budget was because formula financing and transfer of funds to the territorial government were cut back, and also the outstanding amount in dispute from the federal government to the territorial government for health benefits paid. So does the Minister indicate that this funding will be finally given to the territorial government from Health and Welfare Canada?
And how will it affect our deficit?
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Mr. Pollard.
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John Pollard Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There is no dispute on this particular aspect of funding from Ottawa. The dispute arises from hospital services as it relates to the health transfer in 1988. The dispute is with the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs, and this billing for the $2,869,000 is to the Department of Health and Welfare Canada. If we do not get the disputed amount with Canada, it will probably increase our deficit by some $41 million. That is a rough number, but it will be in excess of $40 million. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Thank you. Supplementary health benefits, not previously authorized, $2,869,000. Agreed? Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
I would like to ask either the Minister of Finance or of Health if they could indicate to this House the purpose for such an increase for non-insured health services. One of the concerns of Members of the committee was the fact that this budget activity had initially budgeted in excess of $12 million, and this is three million dollars over its anticipated budget. Why has such an increase had to be absorbed?
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Mr. Pollard.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, it is those noninsured services that are provided to Indians and Inuit people. It starts out as an estimate but it actually becomes the amount of services that was used in a particular year, Mr. Chairman. So the $2,869,000 is the difference between the estimate and what was actually used by the recipients. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Supplementary Health Benefits, Total O and M, Agreed
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Supplementary health benefits, not previously authorized, $2,869,000. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Territorial Hospital Insurance Services, Total O and M, Agreed
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Thank you. Territorial hospital insurance services, not previously authorized, $3,616,000. Mr. Gargan.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
With regard to the details on that one, the first one: "To provide funding for insured inpatient and outpatient hospital costs outside the NWT." The Minister of Finance indicated on several occasions the need to have one of those scanners or machines that look at you -- ultrasound. The Minister went through that process, and he thought it was pretty useful. Have you thought of getting something like this up here?
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Minister of Health.