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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

I know it is not my constituency, Mr. Chairman, but when is it going to be built then?

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Mr. Minister.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Mr. Chairman, I will re-examine that and I believe that we will review it and put it back in future years.

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Mr. Nerysoo, you were not yet finished with your question.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Chairman, what I was trying to get at earlier was simply that the Minister indicated that the proposal that was made for the Iqaluit shelter was based on the fact that a submission had gone in prior to the Inuvik submission. Now that was the reasoning and the rationale. I want to ask the Minister, if the facts prove that the Inuvik proposal was in before Iqaluit, is he prepared to address that and find the appropriate financing? It does not make any sense to me but that is his rationale.

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Mr. Minister.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

I said that we are looking to assist Inuvik, and I will continue to look at that project and assist them in every way that we can, given the resources, if we can find the money and the need is there.

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I had a couple of questions. The Minister, when we asked where the $446,000 in the budget came from said, "through a variety of other projects." I was going to ask, and Mr. Gargan picked it up; was one of the projects from the intention of the unit to be built in Igloolik -- was the funding taken from that project? Thank you.

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Mr. Minister.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, some money was taken from that project.

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

The Minister indicated that this funding was cost-shared with the group that runs Nutaraq's Place. How much of the funding was cost-shared? How much was GNWT funding? How much was from the society that runs Nutaraq's Place?

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Mr. Minister.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe it was in the neighbourhood of $45,000.

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

In the event other groups in the Territories decide to raise money to the tune of about $45,000

or $50,000, recognizing that they need shelter for battered women, is the Minister's department willing to assist those groups in ensuring that they build a home for battered women? Would the same consideration be granted and would the same funds be available?

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Mr. Minister.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

I think that all factors will be considered very carefully. I think that if a need is identified, we need to move fairly quickly on something given sets of circumstances at the time; I think the department would look very carefully at any proposal that would come, including participation by the lead group to raise portions of the money themselves, depending on the availability of capital funding through surpluses or things of that nature. Certainly based on the need at the time, given the circumstances.

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Thank you. Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

With regard to that $446,000 that was spent this summer; there was a motion passed and I am sure that the justification for this expenditure must have been evaluated before -- this was not approved by the House, Mr. Chairman, so in order to justify this expenditure there must have been some statistics done, some studies done, some planning, some design, because last year there was no allocation for this amount, nor was there any money for the planning or design. So I would like to ask the Minister, how was it determined that a shelter should be built in Iqaluit. It came without any preliminary plans whatsoever, or design. Perhaps the Minister might be able to enlighten me about that. Mr. Chairman, we do have in the Deh Cho region 10 communities, and I do not think the need for a shelter is any less in that region as opposed to any other region, so perhaps the Minister might enlighten me. I know this has been an ongoing problem in my own constituency as well, but it has never been addressed.

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Mr. Minister.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will probably get away with answering that I was not there at the time the initial decision was made, so I will ask Mr. Doyle if he would please respond to that question.

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The Chair James Arvaluk

Thank you. Mr. Doyle.

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Doyle

Mr. Chairman, it is important to recognize that this is an extension, not a new building. The shelter was running at between 110 per cent and 115 per cent for some time. It was crowded. We had some real concerns in regard to the number of people we were turning away under very serious circumstances, so we did look at where we could find the money to deal with this emergency. We did take $45,000 from the $145,000 that was put in for the Igloolik group home. We based our decision to do that on the fact that we were going to use the same design for the Igloolik group home as we were using for the Baker Lake group home, which was going to go ahead, so that would save us in design money in future years. We also wanted to save some money in our capital budget, so we did take the $100,000 out. We also were able to come up with some surplus funds of $320,000 from renovations and furniture and equipment in various locations within the family and children's services budget; $30,000 from project No. 3020800, renovations, department facilities, under group homes, and $51,000 from project 3050440, handicapped group home in Keewatin Region, which was delayed, so we made up the $446,000 from those particular funds to deal with this emergency.