Thank you. General comments. Member for Nahendeh.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. General comments. Member for Nahendeh.
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a few comments I would like to make on the question of the plebiscite. I talked earlier on today and over the last few days about my concerns. My concern is that people in the West need to be properly informed about the whole question that we are going to vote on on May 4th. People in my constituency have approached me. I found out that I was not too informed myself about this plebiscite. I have been trying to learn as much as I can about it.
My other concern is that on Tuesday, March 10th, when there was a public discussion on the boundary to divide the Northwest Territories, there was a presentation by the chief of Snowdrift who wanted to continue to talk with members of Tungavik Federation of Nunavut with regard to the boundary in the Thelon River area, which is in the Chipewyan traditional area and will be on the Nunavut side. There is a concern by the chief of this community, who stated that he would like to continue talking with members of TFN to see if they can come to an understanding in that area, To date, I do not know if this has happened. Hopefully, some discussion will take place between now and May 4th.
Among the Dene people there are different tribes, including the Chipewyan in the Snowdrift area; north of here we have the Tlicho or Dogrib; for myself, I am a Dene from the southwestern portion of the Northwest Territories, which is far away from the boundary question. It does not really affect us, but when the Dene people meet with each other, we have these discussions and try to support each other in what is affecting us. Therefore, I am going to be supporting the Tlicho people and the Chipewyan people in this regard. This morning, again, I heard on CBC radio that there was a constitutional development hearing going on in Snare Lake, where there was a lot of concern by Tlicho people about the boundary. There, again, they are not totally satisfied that the way the boundary was drawn was to their satisfaction.
I think it is unfinished business, and, even after May 4th, the problem will still exist. I do not know how it will be dealt with, but that is my concern, Mr. Chairman. There are two groups of people whose traditional area the line is going through, and there is a dispute about the line. Even after May 4th, that concern and problem will remain. I am concerned, Mr. Chairman, that even if there is a vote yes on May 4th, the problem will be there. It is not going to go away. You have to take that into consideration.
As a representative of people, I have always tried to represent everybody no matter what. I try to take in their concerns and try to deal with them. That is the way I have always operated, as a former chief; and as an MLA, I am continuing to be myself. I think these people have to be taken into consideration, because a majority of the people may vote "Yes," and these people will continue to exist. They are not going to go away. These people have been there for generations and will continue to be there. They will not go away, because they did not come from any other place. My concern is that even if there is a "Yes" vote, that problem will remain the same. They have not really done anything yet, and I am concerned that they may take a strong position.
You could have all the different political groups representing different regions gang up on them. But, they are not going to go away. My concern is that the boundary line is going to go through their area, and they are disputing it, as we heard on CBC this morning. We heard the chief from Snowdrift on Tuesday, March 10th, and he is concerned about the boundary going through his traditional area. I do not think his concern has, to date, been met. He wants to talk with representatives of TFN to see if it can be resolved. I do not know, to date, if that has happened.
I will conclude by saying that as Dene people we try to support each other. If their concerns are not met, then I would like to see their concerns met, and I will be in support of them. Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. General comments. Does the committee agree that Tabled Document 12-12(2) is now concluded?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. What does the committee wish to do now? Member for Thebacha.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, we would like to make one brief motion with respect to Tabled Document 9-12(2), Strength at Two Levels.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Does the committee agree?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Tabled Document 9-12(2), Strength At Two Levels
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Member for Thebacha.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The issue of Tabled Document 9-12(2) was brought up in the ordinary Members' caucus for the past couple of days. This motion should have been introduced yesterday; however, it was overlooked. There have been concerns by the ordinary Members' caucus with respect to the implementation of structural or organizational changes of government departments. I would like to move a motion.
Motion That Recommendations In "Strength At Two Levels" Not Be Implemented Until Implementation Strategy Is Tabled And Discussed In The House, Carried
I move, Mr. Chairman, that this committee strongly recommend that the Government of the Northwest Territories not proceed with the implementation of any of the recommendations contained in the report entitled "Strength at Two Levels," or make any structural or organizational changes to the departments of the government, until the implementation strategy that will be prepared and delivered to the standing committee on finance in June 1992 has been tabled and fully discussed and approved by the Members of this House. Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Your motion is in order. To the motion. Madam Government Leader.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, I do not have a problem with the motion as we -- certainly, with the length of the Legislative Assembly, much of the working group's work that was to be done is a bit delayed, as well -- will be continuing with our work plan and the work that we can complete. We will have the implementation recommendations ready for the standing committee in June. I have no problem with the motion, considering the busy schedules that everyone has. We will be able to get the work done so that we can have the implementation plan in June. Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. To the motion. Are you ready for the question?
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An Hon. Member
Question.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.
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What is the committee's wish now? Mr. Nerysoo.
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
Mr. Chairman, I move that we report progress.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Order, please. The motion on the floor is not debatable. All those in favour? Those opposed? The motion is carried.
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I will now rise to report progress to the Speaker.
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Item 19, report of committee of the whole. Mr. Pudluk.
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Ludy Pudluk High Arctic
Mr. Speaker, you committee has been considering Tabled Document 12-12(2) and Tabled Document 9-12(2) and wishes to report progress, with Tabled Document 12-12(2) being concluded, with one motion being adopted. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the chairman of the committee of the whole be concurred with.
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Is there a seconder to the motion? Mr. Nerysoo. The motion is in order. All those in favour? Opposed? The motion is carried.
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Item 20, third reading of bills.
Before we proceed, I would like, on behalf of the Legislative Assembly, to express our gratitude to Sergeant-at-Arms Warrant Officer Rick Nickerson.
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And earlier in the session Master Warrant Officer Russ Watson acted as Sergeant-at-Arms.
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I would also like to thank the interpreters, the Legislative Assembly staff, the Executive Council staff, for their very hard work during this session.
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Mr. Clerk, Item 21, orders of the day.
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Clerk Of The House
Mr. Speaker, orders of the day for Tuesday, June 16, 1992.
1. Prayer
2. Ministers' Statements
3. Members' Statements
4. Returns to Oral Questions
5. Oral Questions
6. Written Questions
7. Returns to Written Questions
8. Replies to Opening Address
9. Petitions
10. Reports of Standing and Special Committees
11. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
12. Tabling of Documents
13. Notices of Motions
14. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills
15. Motions: Motion 16-12(2)
16. First Reading of Bills
17. Second Reading of Bills
18. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and
Other Matters: Tabled Documents 9-12(2) and 10-12(2);
Motion 6-12(2)
19. Report of Committee of the Whole
20. Third Reading of Bills
21. Orders of the Day
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Thank you, Mr. Clerk. I would also like to express our gratitude to the Pages. We had Pages from all over the Territories serving with us during this Assembly, and I think all of us owe you a debt of gratitude. You did a great job.
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This House stands adjourned until Tuesday, June 16, 1992.
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