Mr. Minister.
Debates of June 19th, 1992
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
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Tony Whitford Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Any indication that we have indicates that there have been no problems expressed. There has to be someone coming forward with some complaints to spark any kind of an inquiry.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, I realize that one has to come forward if they are going to sue our government for not having a facility -- if a young offender escaped and has been convicted, he could sue our government for being placed in a facility which was not designated. We wanted the Minister's department to research whether or not anyone has been unlawfully charged for escaping -- especially young offenders - and to see if there are any possible cases. That is the
information requested of the Minister, and I was hoping to hear it in his opening remarks. The chairman of the standing committee on legislation made reference to it.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Mr. Minister.
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Tony Whitford Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A cursory review has indicated no flags to continue looking at any complaints.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, I hate to put words into the Minister's mouth, but is the Minister saying the research that they have conducted indicates that there are no cases for liability purposes that they can see?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Mr. Whitford.
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Is it the wish of the committee that we go clause by clause?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Clause 1. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Clause 2. Agreed? Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Under clause 2, subclause 28.(1.4), with regard to private residence, could the Minister indicate to the House under what circumstances would the private residence be designated as a facility?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Mr. Minister.
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Tony Whitford Yellowknife South
Because of our uniqueness in the Territories, some communities may not have facilities that could otherwise be designated as a facility, and it might be necessary to use a private residence for that purpose. In addition to that, we have the uniqueness of having elders wishing to take some responsibility for looking after young people. This would be one instance where a private residence would be designated.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, if that is the case, then prior, to giving the designation to a private residence, do the private residence people need to obtain a business licence from the municipalities?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Mr. Minister.
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Tony Whitford Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am not sure if this would be the same as operating a business. I think this is different, but the facility would be reviewed by Social Services to ensure that it meets the standard that is to be set for a designated facility. As to whether or not they need a business licence, some municipalities may have different requirements. But I am informed this is not the case.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
If the private residence is designated as a facility for open custody for youth, I would assume it is a business
venture where they are providing service. Various municipalities have by-laws that govern activities within their municipalities, for instance, here in the city of Yellowknife. Is the Minister saying that the Minister can designate a private residence here in the city without those people going to city hall to acquire a business licence? What if that area is zoned residential?
I am having problems with how they are going to adhere to the other laws, especially with the Cities, Towns and Villages Act and the Hamlet Act. Has the department taken a serious look at how they are going to deal with acquiring a business licence?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Mr. Whitford.