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Further Return To Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Lewis.

Supplementary To Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, as Members know, although I am a representative of a mining town, non-renewable resources, I am very interested in the future of the territories in the renewable resource area. This morning at 8:00 I received a call from Nancy Buckley telling me she had a lot of mariahs. These are large fish. She wanted to know if I wanted them filleted or just whole. I said I would ask the Minister if it would be all right for me to have filleted fish. Would it be all right for me to get filleted fish from this person? This means I would be getting processed fish, and because I am an MLA, I wouldn't want to break the law.

Supplementary To Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, I would hope that we would be able to sell whole or filleted fish. I would hope we would be able to sell whole filleted fish.

---Laughter

But my personal preference would be that we have deep fried fish with a few chippies on the side. Thank you.

---Laughter

Further Return To Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Lewis.

Supplementary To Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, we have had a tradition of getting local foods so we could eat in the back room. I wonder if Mr. Todd, through his office, could arrange that we have some of this fish and then Members of this House could fully appreciate the quality of the fish in the big lake close to us?

Supplementary To Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the question raised by Mr. Lewis. I would suggest to him that we discuss it with the Speaker, who makes arrangements for the goodies in this House. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Question 17-12(4): Marketing Of Fish In Yellowknife
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Which I would remind Members, there are very few of in these days of austerity. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Whitford.

Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday I asked the Minister responsible for MACA a question concerning the hunting bans along Ingraham Trail. The Minister had advised me, through his reply, that it was not only a hunting ban, it was a total ban on all discharge of firearms. That included shotguns. This ban applies to the 77 kilometres of highway that people would traditionally hunt along for small game, grouse, rabbits and muskrats, food for the table. A total ban on firearms is going to affect these people who use this for local harvesting. I would like to know how his department would have arrived at such a decision that would affect, what would be considered by many, the traditional right to hunt small game.

Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Allooloo.

Return To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The advice I am getting from our legal advisors and also the newspaper I read, that had an article from a native lawyer, stated that this ban on discharging firearms along the Ingraham Trail does not affect aboriginal rights, if that is the Member's concern. Thank you.

Return To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Whitford.

Supplementary To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think the question was probably directed more to how did the department arrive at this decision, other than consulting lawyers? There are many people affected by this who don't live along that road, but use this road. Was there any consultation with the people in that area, Ndilo and Dettah?

Supplementary To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Allooloo.

Further Return To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The concern was raised last year when we used to have a no hunting corridor in place on the Ingraham Trail starting November 1 until April 30. The problem was the caribou came to that area last year, prior to November 1, 1992, and there were thousands of caribou that were harvested. Even in places where people had cabins, there was shooting taking place. The concern was that regulation was the responsibility of Renewable Resources. Under the Wildlife Act, it was quite inadequate because the fines, some people felt, were not high enough. And the penalties were not severe enough. So we have asked our government to see if they could implement an act that has more teeth to allow the shooting of firearms to be prevented in that particular area. So we used the Municipal and Community Affairs Act, which disallows firearms for safety reasons. I believe there was some consultation. I asked my department to come back to me with the details of information, who they met and whether they went into communities to

consult with the people, and I can get that information later on, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Whitford.

Supplementary To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister has taken the long way around to answer the question. I am quite aware of the reasons for it and I don't object to that. But the ban formerly was for the hunting of big game. We are talking about other game and the use of different types of guns. Shotguns that are not as dangerous at long range as would be a rifle. I can fully understand and appreciate the concerns that people have. But I want to know who the Minister's officials spoke to. Did they go to the people in Dettah and Ndilo about this regulation that would very seriously affect their hunting rights to harvest along that highway in season? Was there any consultation done?

Supplementary To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Allooloo.

Further Return To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am told that my department consulted with: Metis local 66; the president of Metis local 55; the chief of Yellowknife Dene Band; the chief of Ndilo Dene Band; president of Ingraham Trail residents' association; president of Cassidy Point; Prosperous Lake association; manager, lands division, DIAND; manager, planning and lands, city of Yellowknife; and, Yellowknife Hunters' and Trappers' Association. As to what extent they consulted I would have to go back for more details. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 6, oral question. Supplementary, Mr. Whitford.

Supplementary To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A problem springs out of the process that has taken place. I thank the Minister for making me aware of some of the people who they have talked to. The problem that springs out of this, Mr. Speaker, is that we have two highways here, one going to the east and one going to the west. Along the Rae/Yellowknife road the same thing will apply. There are houses springing up all over the place. People from Rae use that road to hunt game in season. I'm afraid that this same thing is going to happen there as well. Will the Minister assure us that adequate consultation will take place prior to any kind of -- if it hasn't already been applied -- ban on any firearms discharging along highway three?

Supplementary To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Allooloo.

Return To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At this point, the only restriction of firing a firearm applies to parts of Ingraham Trail. It does not apply to the Yellowknife highway. If the people of that particular area want a ban then, obviously, Mr. Speaker, we would have to go through extensive consultation, not only with Yellowknife people but also people from the Fort Rae and Edzo area. Thank you.

Return To Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Question 18-12(4): Hunting Ban On Ingraham Trail
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Koe.