I agree wholeheartedly with my colleague, Mr. Dent. People across the north, as Mr. Dent mentioned, are crying for help. They are crying to be healed. They are crying for all kinds of processes. We've been saying all along -- everybody that I've talked to -- that the current methods don't work. They want something different.

In the province of Manitoba and in some parts of Alberta and Ontario, the hospitals and the system recognize traditional healers and they use these people in the hospitals to help heal people. We have big problems in alcohol and drugs and that is why social services is here. We have big problems in trying to heal people and work with people with alcohol and drug addictions. We have probably the best training system that I'm aware of -- the Metis Institute, out of Edmonton -- and yet, our system doesn't recognize the people that are trained out of there.

The certificates they receive aren't used in the north. The people that go out come back with certificates that aren't recognized as part of whatever degree they're going for, for alcohol and drug training. The alcohol and drug centres in Dettah and Hay River are built there to use the methods and the people that are there -- the traditional aboriginal healing circles and elders. That's why they are there.

As Mr. Dent mentioned, they need a little something else on top of their traditions. They need cash, whatever, to help them go on. They may have to travel somewhere. None of our aboriginal organizations or volunteer groups have the kind of money to bring people from here to there to do these things. It has to have some teeth and that is why the recommendation was made like this. I don't support changing this motion. Thank you.