Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The bottom line is if you are going to say to an agency that there is a limit to how much they can charge, you are going to have to reflect also that the government has a responsibility to contribute to the operation significantly. I have no problem with the community being involved in running it, but when you have a volunteer board then let the board run it. Let them set their own fees and fee schedule. Let them determine what is fair and adequate. In this situation, they are not being given a free hand to determine how they can raise the monies they might need to cover the cost of the operation that is, instead, being limited by the department. Don't expect autonomy on one side when it is all costs and not provide that autonomy when it is the income side.
Debates of Nov. 30th, 1993
Topics
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think Mr. Dent has said it all.
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to endorse what Mr. Dent has said on that issue, as well. I think it posed serious problems in the start-up, and that issue contributed to the problems which slowed the start-up of the personal care facility in Iqaluit as well. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask the Minister, for level II personal care facilities operated by private contractors, what is the department's policy on providing access to medical care for patients in those level II facilities?
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Point of order, Mr. Chairman. I think we are starting to talk about operation and maintenance when we are dealing with the capital budget.
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Madam Minister. That is not a point of order as such, but it is correct. Mr. Patterson, did you wish to rephrase that, ask it in a different way, or ask another question?
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit
Mr. Chairman, the committee has been flexible in allowing questions relating to operations and maintenance, such as the policy on funding. I think these are interrelated with capital issues. I would suggest that the Chair
allow the usual flexibility in the interests of thorough consideration of the capital budget.
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you. Yes, I have been known for being very fair. I wanted to be flexible enough that Members can get their points of view across. If it is a question that is related, why I allowed it is that it is O and M that may be related toward the capital budget or capital item itself. There are situations like that. This is one of those areas. That is why I allowed it. Madam Minister, you can respond if you wish. It is your prerogative.
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I absolutely don't mind with general comments, but I start to have questions when I am being asked questions directly pertaining to operations and maintenance costs.
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Mr. Patterson, would you like to re-phrase that? There seems to be a challenge of the Chair. I will take it into account, if that is the case.
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can tell that the Minister is reluctant to answer my question. Perhaps you will allow me a short moment to indicate to the Minister that I am concerned about the issue of access to medical care for patients in level II personal care facilities, who, in some facilities, are being allowed to have access to local nurses and doctors but in other facilities are not. Since the Minister may not wish to answer those questions here, this afternoon, I will let her know that it is an issue I will be pursuing in question period. Thank you.
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Patterson. The item we are dealing with is contributions, total region. The amount is $100,000. Agreed?
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Where does the committee suggest we go from here? Madam Minister, these matters are concluded and I'd like to thank yourself and the witnesses for their participation. You're free to go. The chair recognizes the Member for Thebacha.
Committee Motion 40-12(4): To Delete Rankin Inlet From Keewatin Region, Carried
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If we can continue on with the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, we would be willing to listen to the Minister's opening remarks. Thank you.