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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What has occurred is that there is an existing arm in the school where, I believe, the Arctic College students used to occupy three classrooms. We've converted those three classrooms to six. This has happened already. What is now occurring, for $230,000, is minor interior renovations, finish upgrades, computer networking, and mechanical and electrical upgrades. That is what is occurring. Then, there is a school addition planned for, as well, on the recent addition section. It is the old wing that has been renovated.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Mr. Chairman, I'm not quite clear yet, as to what is being renovated for $235,000. Is the old wing going to be torn down and extended for the regular school? What part of the building is going to be renovated?

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What is being renovated is the old wing of the school. The school addition that we are considering will be added to the recent addition so that all the school programming will be in one portion of the building and the adult programming, the Arctic College programming, will be in the other. That is what is planned. That, generally, has been agreed to by the community and the Arctic College program.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

The adult education centre is now located in the old staff house of the hamlet because the school is too full. Arctic College got kicked out of the school because grades ten and 11 have to be housed there. I don't want to go to page 16-14 yet, but these topics are more or less connected. As soon as the word "attached" is stated as a definite objective, I guess you more or less have to talk about them together. The old section, until September, was occupied by the adult education centre, and the school extension is not going to be in that wing. If not, where is it going to be extended to?

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The new addition that we're considering is on the recent addition. It is a new section that we're talking about. The renovations for the Arctic College programming are in the old wing. I recognize that what happened was that we had to remove the adult programming out of there to accommodate the school age population. The addition will be able to accommodate the growth of the student population, while the renovations to the old wing will provide for six classrooms and additional program space for Arctic College programming. We'll be able to accommodate both K-12 and Arctic College programming with these renovations and additions.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

On page 16-14, the $2.6 million is for, as the Coral Harbour education council requested, five or six extra classrooms. There was a meeting between Mr. Colbourne from the department, and Mike Shouldice, Vice-President of Arctic College, Leonie Duffy, governor of Arctic College, and Fraser Hope from the divisional board in Rankin Inlet or Baker Lake around May 6. They discussed that whole issue. What you have now in Coral Harbour school is a newer part of the school, and the old wing which is being used by adult education as part of the whole present condition of the rooms. Therefore, we'll add only three on top of that. I don't want to hear that, when you house adult education in that old wing. Hopefully, you will exclude the adult education section of the old wing, when you are making plans to make an addition for $2.66 million in the new part. I don't want to see a report stating that we included the adult education centre as a regular school unit as we assessed it.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are considering that. That was part of the discussions that took place. What we were concerned about was providing both adult Arctic College programming and, at the same time, expanding the school, providing a new addition that accommodated the school age population in that community. The total number of classrooms is five, plus one science room in that new section. That is what we are looking at. From the calculations, that will be able to accommodate the total number of students in that community.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Going back to page by page, 16-10, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I usually try to read as much material as I can concerning my riding. During the discussion between Mr. Colbourne, Mr. Shouldice and governors of the Arctic College, Leonie Duffy and Fraser Hope, after the whole discussion took place, Mr. Colbourne told them, "We better have a stand-alone adult education centre." The Standing Committee on Finance, which I was lucky to be a Member of, was presented with this capital budget and noticed that the adult education centre will only be renovated for $235,000, wiping out the decision that was made by these officials to make a stand-alone adult education centre in Coral Harbour. I have not yet seen, to date, paper or any other kind of communication stating that the department has changed its mind.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't want to suggest to anyone, or to the Member, that there was no request for a stand-alone building. In fact, there was. Like everything else, there is a need for a plan for that particular request. With the resources that we have, we can provide a new addition to the new portion of the school, plus renovate the old section to provide for adult college programming facilities that will address the shortages of space for that program. That is what we are addressing right now. So, there is a new section for the kindergarten to grade 12 students. That is what is occurring.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Can the Minister tell me, then, why there was no communication indicating that the department had changed its mind in accounting for that? I understand that we are trying to be efficient and the economic considerations were part of that decision. But, why was there no communication when they changed their mind -- after the officials had met and agreed to have a stand-alone centre -- when the department unilaterally decided, without Arctic College representatives, that there will no longer be a stand-alone centre?. Why wasn't there a letter or something, at least, to me or to Coral Harbour indicating that is no longer the case?

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

The problem, Mr. Chairman, clearly is this. There were officials who went into Coral Harbour. They met with members of the CEC. The CEC was part of the review of a number of options. The decision from that meeting was that we would go with the renovations to the old wing and the additions to the new wing. That was what was agreed to in the community itself. I don't know what else to indicate to the honourable Member, but that was the decision and the direction that was given to us after consultations in the community itself. Perhaps I have to apologize to the honourable Member for us not advising him, but it was my understanding that, once the community had agreed to it and they supported it, it would have been supported here. I will note that particular issue and I will deal with it, in terms of ensuring that we communicate with other Members on an ongoing basis.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I forgot that the chairman of the community education council was not present at the time, Mr. Pudluk. However, I will be pursuing that during the question period after I have communicated with all members of that meeting and the subsequent communication between different bodies -- the divisional board, Arctic College, et cetera -- because I am not yet convinced that there was no breakdown of communication after the decision was reversed to have the old wing to be renovated for an adult education centre. I am not objecting to the point. I'm just not pleased that the change of mind has not been communicated to the chairman of the community education council, to me or anyone else who is concerned about the decision that was made by those parties that were involved. I will get some more information and pursue it later on. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Keewatin, total region, $244,000. Agreed?