This is page numbers 313 - 362 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am inclined to follow the argument as to why this particular amount of money is being needed, and I haven't been very successful. As I understand it, the need to upgrade the central processing unit

is because of the increase of use. There are far more people now who are going to use it. I wonder if the Minister could explain what the nature of this increased use is, because that hasn't been made clear.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. The honourable Minister.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The GNWT's data communication network now currently connects over 3,000 terminal and PC users to the 12,000 HP 3000 mainframe computers in headquarters and regional data centres. Because of ongoing growth in the number of users and the number of computerized business systems, along with the ongoing initiatives such as decentralization, expansion will be required on some major network components. Within Yellowknife alone, there are close to 2,000 users who require computer access as part of their jobs. This number continues to grow. Capacity of some buildings has been exhausted. The same situation is occurring in the regions, and in the communities, because of recent implementations of computer systems such as the new social assistance system.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. To the motion, Mr. Lewis.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

All right. We are not increasing staff. It is the same number of people. I don't see any new computers. In other words, the forced growth that we are looking at here must be for some reason. So, what is the forced growth, because the computers already exist. It is not clear to me what is forcing us to invest this money since I don't see anything new happening. What is happening that is new which requires us to invest the $210,000?

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you, Mr. Lewis. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Like I said, the capacity of some of the buildings have been exhausted in computers, so they have to be upgraded, as do computer systems, such as the new social assistance system.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Lewis.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

So, what has happened then, Mr. Chairman, as I understand it, is that the personal computers, 3,000 plus the 1,500, are at the maximum capacity and there is no other way of solving that problem. For example, you could store information on disks, which doesn't cost much, but instead you have to upgrade these computers. What is it precisely that needs to be upgraded?

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The capital funding will be used to purchase and install the data communication equipment that is required to expand the network to meet GNWT requirements. As well, disk drives will be added to increase capacity. Tape drives will be replaced and memory increased to enhance processing capabilities. The central processor will be upgraded to meet the increase in user demands. That's all the information I have.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Lewis.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

This is not a huge item, Mr. Chairman. But for those people who are interested, it would be better if the Minister, who is a politician, had his expert staff with him to answer questions that some Members may be interested in asking.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Even when I have my witnesses in the House, none of them are computer technicians.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. It is my understanding on this page, that this is budgeted as required. To the motion.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Question has been called. All those in favour? There is a vote on the floor. Question has been called by the mover of the motion. The vote is on the floor, so all those in favour, please raise your hand. Member for Thebacha.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I would like to know if we can get my motion translated.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

The Member is asking the concurrence of the committee to get the motion written and translated, I believe. Agreed?

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Okay, agreed. So, we will take a five minute break while the motion is being translated.

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Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. The committee will now come to order. Prior to our break, there was a motion on the floor. The request was made to have the motion written and translated. I would like to ask, for the record, the mover of the motion to read the motion, please. Thank you.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move to defer consideration of the activity systems and communications in the Department of Public Works and Services, 1994-95 Capital Estimates.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 46-12(4): To Delete Funding Under Activity Systems And Communications On Page 08-23 Of Capital Estimates, Defeated
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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An Hon. Member

Question.