Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would the Minister commit to providing the name of who is constructing these fuel tanks, to determine whether it is a northern firm or whether it is a local firm? Thank you.
Debates of Dec. 1st, 1993
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Would the honourable Minister provide the name of the firm that was contracted previously and is contracted now?
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
I have one further question. I would also like to know when these types of tanks are being constructed in the community? We recognize that certain types of qualifications are needed, with regard to pipe fitting, high pressure welding, X-rays and what not, in constructing the fuel tanks. Has the Minister's department made any initiative to attempt to train northerners in those particular areas, since we do spend a phenomenal amount of money in building fuel tanks? Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, we have made a lot of progress in that area. Just the other day, Paul Brothers Welding Ltd., I believe, got their ULC approval from Canadian standards for fuel tanks. The manufacturer in Hay River is working for his approval right now. His tanks will be tested and they will get the ULC sticker as well. There are a lot of pressure welders available in the Northwest Territories to weld fuel tanks. The majority of the major fuel contracts do go to northerners.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Member for Thebacha.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
I recognize that a lot of them go to northerners, and we encourage northerners to build them, now that they're being constructed in Hay River and shipped to different parts of the north. I'm just wondering, since your department spends a phenomenal amount of money each year to place and replace fuel tanks, has your department taken the initiative to train people who are building fuel tanks? Not only in welding, but also in pipefitting, plastic lining welding -- which is different from high pressure welding -- X-rays, and those types of trades?
Not just hiring general labourers and encouraging the contractor to hire as many local labourers as possible is one issue, but specializing general trades is the area that I'm bringing forth. I'm wondering whether there has been some type of initiative with regard to that?
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We assist private enterprise and work closely with private enterprise. They are the ones who have the majority of apprenticeships for welders to get pressure welding tickets. The pressure welding ticket is what is needed to get welds X-rayed. Those people are available in the Northwest Territories and we'll continue to work with them to make sure those types of people are available. We try to make sure that it is northerners who work on our job sites and we try to maximize local labour as well.
At the present time, we are working on an expression of interest to manufacture components. Maybe that's another issue we can pursue as well, to make sure that no southern welders come into the territories to work on these tanks.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Member for Thebacha.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
That is good, but I'm wondering if there is any effort with regard to looking at pipefitting as a specialized trade? It is a specialized trade. Is the department attempting to train and take advantage of pipe fitters, similar to the high-pressure welding trade you talked about.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. To begin with, there has to be interest in taking training in the area that the honourable Member is looking at. Mr. Minister.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, I will explore that as well, specialized pipe fitters for construction of fuel tanks. Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Baffin, total region, $2.240 million.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Keewatin. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
With regard to the aviation facility/fuel tank construction in Igloolik, $100,000 is being forecasted. Is that for preliminary work?
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. The honourable Minister.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The project was done back in 1990. It has to be redesigned, basically, it has to be updated. That is what that money is being requested for. Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Member for Thebacha. Then I have Mr. Lewis. Member for Thebacha.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Thank you. So, this funding is probably to start designing the work. It states in the book that we are going to be looking at some $5 million in future years.
I think some of the points that I brought up with Clyde River, about building these types of facilities, apply here, to take full advantage of specialized trades such as welding and pipe fitters. You are just finishing up a $4 million project in Clyde River and you anticipate another $5 million project in Igloolik. The need for these types of trades is essential, Mr. Chairman. This is the point I'm trying to bring forth to the Minister. He should be able to tie this in with his capital plan. Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That's a good idea and I agree that we should try to tie training into it. I'll work with the Minister of Education on that issue. I'm in full support of those types of initiatives. Thank you.