Order, please. Continue, Mr. Minister. Member for Thebacha.

Mr. Chairman, I know our committee of the whole rules are flexible, but I don't think it allows for a Member to have to take all of these ignorant remarks that are directed towards me. I would like to request that the Minister of Justice's remarks be withdrawn from the record. Thank you.

The Member for Thebacha is requesting that the Minister remove his remarks. Mr. Minister.

Thank you. General comments. I have Mr. Patterson on my list, but he is not here at the moment. General comments. Member for Thebacha.

Mr. Chairman, I move we report progress.

There is a motion on the floor to report progress. It is not debatable. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? Point of order, Member for Kitikmeot.

Point Of Order

Mr. Pudlat was not in the room and I don't believe he had his interpreter piece on for the discussion on the motion.

What was your point of order about again?

Mr. Pudlat was not in the room, at the time. He sat down and didn't have an opportunity to hear the motion.

The motion is very, very simple. It is to report progress. It is not debatable. I'm going to call the vote again just once more. To the motion.

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is defeated.

---Defeated

General comments. Mr. Patterson.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to say I know there has been quite a bit of criticism of the approach with certain young offenders' facilities in certain communities. I just want to make note of the efforts of the Minister and staff to provide culturally-sensitive services to young offenders in the Baffin region. I want to acknowledge the support given to Elijah Erkloo's open custody facility in Pond Inlet, the support given to the Ullivik open custody facility in Iqaluit which is run by respected Inuit elders, the support to the Mingotuq on-the-land facility which I have spoken about previously in this House.

What I want to say is that what impresses me is that there is a holistic approach being taken, it seems, whereby the secure facility -- which we all realize is necessary -- is only part of a larger program and only one option available to young offenders in the Baffin region. If they want to go to an on-the-land facility and it would benefit them, that option is available. If they want to stay in the community for schooling, or counselling or other reasons, that option is available. If they need to be in a secure custody facility, that facility is there. But even that facility is being operated by an increasing number of aboriginal people and in a manner which lets young offenders realize that there are other options and programs available to them.

I just want to acknowledge this. I know the Minister has come under attack for some problems that have arisen recently. I know it is a very difficult business, running these facilities. I want to say that, in my view, progress is being made in the Baffin region, in the spirit of greater community and cultural involvement in this very challenging area. I want to make those positive comments. I think progress has been made in my riding and I'm sure it will occur in other communities as well, given the commitment of the Minister and the attitude of his senior and regional staff.

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Thank you. General comments. Shall we go line by line?

Agreed.

---Agreed

Line By Line

Thank you. Detail of capital, correctional Services, building and works, headquarters, total region, $188,000.

Agreed.

---Agreed

Thank you. Fort Smith, total region, $114,000. Mr. Koe.

What kind of upgrading are they doing to this correctional centre?