Mr. Chairman, we've had extensive discussions with the managers of these facilities. There have been some suggestions made by the manager of River Ridge, for instance, about renovations for this facility. I know the Member for Thebacha was demanding last year that I not come forward with any capital money to do renovations. I want to point out that one of the observations made is that the control room in that facility is not strategically located, in the view of the staff and the management.

That observation was made, keeping in mind that this a facility originally built to be a secure facility. Even with a triple designation or just a secure facility, that question has come up about that particular room. We're going to look at it and if it is the view of management that it is absolutely required, we will probably move on it.

There has been a system set up, where we regularly go through security procedures and we are working with the management to evaluate the performance of the staff and the type of training we provide them. Jeannie, you're not listening, I'm trying to give you an answer. The staff that we have in these facilities have to be able to, in our mind, do the job that is demanded of them. So, that has become a normal part of our operations.

Just last month, we did an audit of the River Ridge facility. The report is coming to me, but there was nothing considered urgent or which needed immediate attention when it was done. I will see when the written report comes to me. Because people staff these facilities and run them and human beings become unpredictable sometimes, we have to be ready all the time without turning them all into high-security camps. We see it as our job to continuously monitor and come up with ways to reduce the number of incidents. I think that's what the Member is asking about, and that is what we see.

None of us like to see these type of incidents. We don't even like to hear about young offenders who walk away from camps and from homes where they are entrusted. To have young offenders disappear and commit offences is considered serious to all of us. It particularly upsets the staff and the management of these facilities because they feel very, very responsible for them and they know this government has placed responsibility on them. They know that the communities and the parents of these offenders have also given them this responsibility. All of us feel a very high level of commitment, to looking always, at ways to reduce this. We are trying to make it a regular part of our job.