Mr. Chairman, Swot Lake is what we call a satellite base. It's a camp we build for use by fire crews when there's a fire in that area. The amount of use, of course, as Mr. Gargan said, depends on the number of fires or the chances of fires in that area. We would be certainly willing to make that facility available for groups of students, for example, who want to go out there, provided it was available if our fire crew needed it. We would require first call on it.

I had a meeting with the deputy ministers of Education and Social Services recently, and we're looking at those kinds of options to jointly develop plans for camps to get young people out into the bush.