Total activity, $99,000.
Debates of Dec. 3rd, 1993
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Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Conservation Education And Resource Development
Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Mr. Chairman, I have a motion on this one.
Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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December 2nd, 1993
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
On the video equipment for Yellowknife. I move that the 1994-95 capital estimates for the Department of Renewable Resources, under the activity conservation education and resource development, for the item equipment acquisition headquarters, in the amount of $15,000, be deleted.
Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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The Chair Tony Whitford
We have a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Minister.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, I wonder if Members would agree that we would follow the motion provided it can be demonstrated that we can save money to do this. If we can show, in our view, it's cheaper for us to do this in-house then we should continue to do so. I'm just suggesting it should be subject to some real facts and figures. I appreciate the intent of the motion but if, in fact, it's costing more money and it's not as efficient as it may appear to be I would like to have the option to come back to the Standing Committee on Finance and this legislature in the next few months, February or March.
Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll be voting in favour of this motion. I think the Minister always has the option of coming back in a supplementary and presenting the arguments, at that time, as to why an activity should be funded. I think in this case, especially in the Standing Committee on Finance when we asked about it, we were not satisfied that this was an activity that should be funded.
The Minister is going to have to justify why a $15,000 monitor is needed, instead of a $2,000 one. Or, why, instead of a BVM 1910, they don't buy a BVM 1310 which is priced at only $6,700. That's a straight retail quotation, not a government price. Most editing suites do use the smaller one, rather than the larger. That's the big difference. Even if we are going to do it in-house, I think the department should be able to come back and justify the expenditures exactly as they're putting them to us. I don't think that they've even come close with this one. As well as the fact that I would support the privatization of video production, I will be supporting this motion.
Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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John Ningark Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just need clarification on the particular equipment. It's under the title of conservation education. I wonder if this equipment would be used to educate or influence the anti-animal rights movement. Thank you.
Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, the reason I was making the suggestion is because there are a number of elements which I think Members should look at. One of them is that the type of equipment required for good quality broadcast material is a field that I think, maybe with the exception of Mr. Dent, none of us are experts on. What is broadcast quality equipment? You can read the labels and tell the difference.
The reason I made the suggestion is because we have an in-house operation right now that produces video equipment programs for the goals we set. We're quite satisfied with it. We have a young aboriginal person who has taken the time to train and learn how to do the job. We think it's a good, efficient operation. It's meeting a need, not only of government but of that particular staff person.
That's the reason for the suggestion I've made. Even to feed some of the stuff into the private sector, we still need some basic work to be done in-house to prepare something to be done by the private sector.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. At this point, we have a motion on the floor. There are only two choices, either to make an amendment or to defeat the motion. The chair will now recognize Mr. Allooloo, and then Mr. Gargan.
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before I vote on this motion, I would like to ask this Minister, if this $15,000 is deleted, would the department then have to go south? According to his words, northern businesses are not capable of doing this type of high quality work.
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Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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Handley
For much of the work we would have to send it south. Some of the work we could possibly have done through TVNC who have the equipment, but we can't always get access to it. It's equipment that's in demand.
What we're asking for would also be equipment that could be shared with Education, Culture and Employment. Most of this work would go south.
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Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
The Minister made reference to a person that the department has been training. If he does not have equipment, will the department now have to let this aboriginal person, the Minister mentioned they had been training, go? Thank you.
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Committee Motion 51-12(4): To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters, Carried
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, that is my understanding. That's why I've asked Members to consider the suggestion that I made. Perhaps Mr. Handley could add more detail about this particular individual who we have assigned to this work.
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