Thank you. General comments. Mr. Gargan.
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The Chair John Ningark
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Mr. Chairman, I realize the Power Corporation doesn't affect my constituency, but on a policy matter, the reserve has been getting power poles, lighting and things like in certain areas for safety purposes. One of them is by the ice crossing, the other is by the entrance by the reserve, one by the alcohol and drug treatment centre and another by the senior citizens' home. What is your policy with regard to costs? When I spoke with the band council and band manager on the reserve, he said they were being charged for just about everything. It's going to cost around $5,000 for them if they
want lighting put in those areas. I'd like to ask, for my own purposes, what your policies are regarding street lighting.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Kidd.
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Kidd
Mr. Chairman, our position is that if the community requests street lighting, given that the community pays the cost for such lighting, then we do everything we can to respond to their requirements. If you are interested, I can give you a copy of the policy in written form.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. General comments on the NWT Power Corporation. I believe this is an information item only. Right?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, I have one question with regard to the issue of demand metres that keeps haunting me from different constituents. Not only from my riding, but from other business people in the north.
I'm of the understanding that the Power Corporation does not have all the necessary demand metres in place, in order to be able to state that these demand metres are fairly distributed to all businesses that should be utilizing them. It's done, currently, on a basis wherever they can address them. Can we get some indication as to whether or not there's the intention to place demand metres where they should be for businesses, or to ensure there's some method of fairness in how these demand metres are placed? Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Kidd.
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Kidd
The corporation is in transition with this matter. We have a program to install demand metres wherever appropriate. Our program is relatively well-advanced. We expect this matter to be resolved within the next two years.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. The technician can't hear, as I was turning up the ear piece a little louder. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
I agree, Mr. Chairman, it's difficult to hear at the best of times, with our system. Mr. Chairman, I'm just wondering since Mr. Kidd has stated these demand metres would be looked at probably in a couple of years, what parts of the territories have these demand metres in place?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Kidd.
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Kidd
Mr. Chairman, all parts of the territories, to the best of my knowledge, have demand metres in place, at this point. The question is, the threshold of consumption at which they are installed. There are still several locations where demand metres are yet required. To the best of my knowledge, the bulk of the requirement has been addressed and it's just a matter of finishing it up.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Member for Thebacha.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Do you anticipate the completion of placing these demand metres where they should be, will be done within the next two years? Is that what you stated?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Kidd.
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Kidd
Mr. Chairman, that's correct.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
I would certainly be happy once they're all in place on a consistent basis because, currently, we have businesses that don't have them and businesses that do have them. It does cause some questioning as to why they're not in place, and why some businesses get charged way more for the power consumption that they don't even use, compared to other businesses that do not get charged accordingly. The inconsistencies in the applied rates, no doubt, cause some controversy and resentment on the Power Corporation as a whole.
The other comment I wanted to make is, Mr. Chairman, I noticed improvement district 18, with Alberta has most likely negotiated with the NWT Power Corporation for the excess power that's currently in Fort Smith. I now see power lines running from Fort Smith to Fort Fitzgerald. I believe that Fort Fitzgerald will be hooked up to electricity, probably within the next month or so. Has that been as a result of either negotiations with improvement district 18, or with the Alberta government, to make use of some of the excess power in Fort Smith? Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Kidd.
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Kidd
Mr. Chairman, that is, in fact, the case. We have arranged with Alberta Power for the sale of some of the surplus power to the community to the south.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
What's the rate of the type of power that's given? Is it possible to get that information?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Kidd.