Debates of Dec. 3rd, 1993

This is page numbers 399 - 430 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
"diamonds In The Rough," Women In The Mining Trade Calendar
Spruce Hen Observations And Comparisons To Aboriginal People
Northern Heritage Column In The Mackenzie Times Newspaper
Absence Of Ministers In The House
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Amendments To The Hours Of Service Regulations And Large Vehicle Control Regulations
Bill 5: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 5, 1992-93
Bill 6: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1993-94
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
To Adopt Recommendation 18
To Adopt Recommendation 19
To Delete $15,000 From Equipment Acquisition, Headquarters
To Adopt Tabled Document 11-12(4)
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Revert Back To Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Part of my riding is situated on an island. Gjoa Haven is on King William island. The general population of that community depends highly on country food, either for subsistence or to supplement their income. There are some outpost camps along the mainland that sometimes require emergency transportation in order to get to the community nursing station for a medical. Gjoa Haven is also looking at a commercial fishery. The Gjoa Haven Hunters' and Trappers' Association is requesting the department get an ocean-going vessel. An ocean going vessel could have multi-use. In the fall, during the month of September, the high winds become very common as in the Yellowknife area. I wonder if the department is aware of the fact that the HTA is requesting a sea-going vessel. If it is, then I would urge the department to consider that very seriously. Is

the department aware of this capital infrastructure required by the community? Thank you.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, I understand from the deputy minister that he's not aware of a request being made by that community.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Ningark.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Mr. Minister, when I was in Gjoa Haven during the summer, as one of my functions as an MLA for that particular community, I was requested to meet with the hunters' and trappers' association. At that particular meeting, Mr. Chairman, the community showed me the boat they were trying to get from the boat builder. I'm not sure from where but somewhere along the eastern coast. If the department and Minister are not aware, I would like them to consider that request very seriously. Thank you.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, the Member raised a question about whether the government has received such a request and if they are responding to it. The best I can say is that it may have been received by another department. What we will do is see if such a request was received by another department, for instance Economic Development may have received it. We will track it and report back to the Member as soon as we can. Thank you.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. General comments. The chair recognizes Mr. Arngna'naaq.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In my last visit to the community of Arviat, which was the beginning of November, I was making my usual rounds of visits and an elderly man asked me to come over and visit him. During this visit the gentleman started talking about the conservation of caribou. As everyone here knows, our group of people were a caribou nomadic people. He pointed out that too often the government, when it is doing something, goes to extravagant means to do their work. I agreed with him because I went in to see the Department of Renewable Resources last year. We went to see the equipment that was in Renewable Resources and I was pleased to see that so much advancement had been made by Renewable Resources in the way of conserving wildlife, at least in the Northwest Territories.

He made a suggestion to me about one small area of the Northwest Territories, which is in the area of Yathkyed Lake, where he had grown up and was raised as a child. All his hunting took place around Yathkyed Lake. He pointed out that at the southern end of Yathkyed Lake is a point where caribou try to cross. When they go in the water and get to the other side they are not able to come up the bay. So, there are many caribou that drown trying to cross this area of the lake, in their migration south. He suggested the government could -- and this, I think, is a very simple solution -- build either inukshuks or a fence that goes across this one point which would reduce the number of caribou that drown in this area. I wonder if the department has ever come across something like this around the Yathkyed Lake area.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arngna'naaq. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

We can follow up on this suggestion. I wonder if the Member could spell the name of that lake for us, just for the record.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. A good suggestion. Member for Kivallivik.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The lake is Yathkyed Lake.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Hansard will appreciate that. Thank you, for the suggestion, Mr. Minister. General comments. Does the committee agree we're ready to go into the details? Page 10-7. Department summary, capital expenditures, buildings and works, total capital expenditures, $3 million...My apologies, I stand corrected.

Wildlife Management

It is page 10-9. Detail of capital, wildlife management, building and works, Kitikmeot, total region, $7,000.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Total buildings and works, $7,000.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Equipment acquisition, headquarters, total region, $92,000.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Total region, $92,000.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

I'm sorry, the page is 10-9, for those who are just arriving. Total equipment acquisition, headquarters, $92,000.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Total equipment acquisition, $92,000.

Committee Motion 50-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 19, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed