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Bill 24: Write-off Of Debts Act, 1993
Item 17: Second Reading Of Bills

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Nunakput, that Bill 24, Write-off of Debts Act, 1993, be read for the second time. Mr. Speaker, this bill would authorize the write-off the debts owing to the Government of the Northwest Territories which are set out in the schedule to the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

The motion is in order, Mr. Pollard. To the principle of the bill.

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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Bill 24 has had second reading. Accordingly, the bill stands referred to a committee. Item 18, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 2-12(3), The Justice House - Report of the Special Advisor on Gender Equality; Tabled Document 19-12(3), 1992 Master Plan for Corrections Service Division; Tabled Document 91-12(3), Northwest Territories AIDS Project - Review; Tabled Document 92-12(3), HIV and AIDS in the NWT in 1993; Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Social Assistance Act; Bill 17, Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1993-94; Bill 18, An Act to Amend the Public Printing Act; Bill 19, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act; Bill 21, An Act to Amend the Reciprocal Enforcement of Judgments Act; Bill 22, An Act to Amend the Mining Safety Act; Bill 23, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 1992-93; Committee Report 10-12(3), Report on Tabled Document 21-12(3): Payroll Tax Act; Committee Report 11-12(3), Report on the Review of the 1993-94 Main Estimates; Committee Report 15-12(3), TD 33-12(2): Government Accountability: A Legislative Action Paper on Access to Government; Committee Report 16-12(3), Final Report on the Comprehensive Review of the Rules; Committee Report 17-12(3), Report on Television Guidelines; and, according to the authority invested in me by Motion 27-12(3), the committee of the whole will stay in session until it reports itself out, with Mr. Whitford in the chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Good afternoon. The committee will now come to order. What is the wish of the committee? Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, we hope to conclude the Department of Social Services main estimates, followed with Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Social Assistance Act, and we will see how far we get after that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell. The committee concluded on Friday with the Department of Social Services and the section was 13-10, alcohol, drugs and community mental health. Does the Minister wish to bring in her witnesses?

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Minister. Sergeant-at-Arms, assist the Minister please. Madam Minister, please introduce your witnesses for the record.

Department Of Social Services

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have with me the deputy minister, Mr. Blair Dunbar, and the director of finance, Mr. Dave Tyler. Thank you.

Alcohol, Drugs And Community Mental Health

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Minister. When we concluded we were dealing with comments on alcohol, drugs and community mental health. The total O and M for this section, $11.772 million. Agreed? Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can the Minister provide us with an update as to the number of alcohol and drug committees which are currently funded in the Northwest Territories?

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell. Madam Minister.

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There are about 38 communities. Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Minister. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, the reason I asked this was that last week there was some comment from Members regarding the department's commitment with respect to alcohol and drugs. In reviewing Hansard, the Minister indicated that it was one of the priorities of the department. I certainly hope, as the Minister, she ensures this particular issue is a priority for her department. I would like to explain why.

In 1987 there were only eight or nine programs which were funded by the alcohol and drug committee funding division, that is only eight or nine communities which were funded. The expansion to 38 communities was to indicate to the territories that there was a commitment on trying to address alcohol and drugs, along with the amount of alcohol and drug rehabilitation facilities which were built in the north. In 1991 there were 38 funded. Now being 1993, there are still 38 being funded. I think the Minister should take it as the comments not being directed at her but at the department, and their commitment as a department to ensure that the addressing of the alcohol and drug division is to be maintained by the department as a priority. Therefore, I would like to make those comments. That is the type of commitment a department makes when you see an increasing trend of how to address these alcohol and drug committees, and not a trend which is stagnant or stays at the same level as they have been in the past couple of years.

To say the department has a commitment, I would question whether there is a commitment. I do not believe there is a commitment by the department officials. However, I think this is why we have political people in there ensuring that the commitment of the House is adhered to. So, I would like to emphasize to the Minister that with concerns to addressing alcohol and drugs, and particularly the abuse with respect to the rehabilitation centre, must come under her direction to the department because obviously the officials will not do it. I felt it was critical to make this comment. Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell. Alcohol, drugs and community mental health. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, on Friday I made comments pertaining to this issue. The agreements which the department has with groups with regard to drug and alcohol programs, is there a provision that if the allotted amount of money which is given to a group is not used up before the end of the fiscal year, they have to give this surplus back?

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Madam Minister.

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Minister. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Is the department going to look at provisions of surpluses for the upcoming year? When people budget they try to be as accurate as the can. However, the whole area of funding for drug and alcohol programs is not adequate. I wonder if the department would take a serious look at this component of surpluses so there is flexibility within the program which is being administered by the local groups, to enable them to utilize their surpluses in various areas so they can do transfers within their budget. For instance, if they have a surplus in a certain area then they would be able to transfer it to a certain component. As the Minister will recall, the Standing Committee on Finance made a recommendation that any surpluses for this program should be put back into the drug and alcohol program. To alleviate that problem, I am wondering if the department can take a look at the question of surpluses at the community level.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Madam Minister.

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Minister. Mr. Koe.