Thank you. Mr. Gargan.
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The Chair John Ningark
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
One other comment, Madam Minister. Was there any kind of a requirement for the new Ministers to take a cut in pay too or was that only the first elected Ministers?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Madam Premier.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, the salaries of Ministers' positions were cut. The new Ministers would move into a salary range that was cut, so it was not given to individuals but to the position.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Are there any general comments? Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask the Government Leader, is there a policy in place with regard to severance packages for Ministers that have left Cabinet and if there is not, is there one being developed?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Madam Premier.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Yes, there is one in place. It is a guideline and severance pay is based on how long you were in the position. We can make it available.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Thank you. When was this guideline, if it is a policy guideline, developed by Cabinet? Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Madam Premier.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, we revisited that particular guideline because we did not really have an expressed guideline previously. I would say it was about four months ago, I cannot give you the exact date.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Are there any general comments? Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
I want to ask the Government Leader, are those guidelines developed if a Minister decides to terminate from Cabinet, if they decide to quit or are they put into place if the Ministers are replaced by the Members of the House. How do those guidelines work? Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Madam Premier.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, all of the above.
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The Chair John Ningark
Is the deputy minister responding to the question? Mr. Alvarez.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, we can provide the details of those guidelines, but I think the question is does it matter if you quit, get fired or removed. I said it does not matter, it is all of the above.
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The Chair John Ningark
We thank you. Are there any general comments? Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Is the Government Leader telling us now that if the current Ministers on Cabinet are replaced in a review system or if they decide to quit, they get a severance package on top of their salary? If a Minister decides to quit tomorrow, the severance package also comes with their termination pay as a Minister. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Madam Premier.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Speaker, I do not know whether there is a difference in the two, but I can get the guidelines and present them. If a person is in the position for four months there would be one or two weeks -- I am just giving an example -- and if they were there for two years they would receive so many weeks. We would have to give you the total package and guidelines.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, it is not clear to me. If the Government Leader only had these guidelines developed four months ago, I would think that either her deputy minister
or herself would have some ideas as to what the guidelines are. It is difficult whenever we ask questions like this in the House we are always being told the information will be provided, and the rules prevent us to follow up on questions unless we spend our time on oral questions to do that. What I want to know, current Ministers who are in Cabinet, if they decide to quit Cabinet, are they entitled to a severance package effective immediately once they terminate? Thank you.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Yes.