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Supplementary To Question 699-12(3): Communication Difficulties Between Education And Tree Of Peace
Question 699-12(3): Communication Difficulties Between Education And Tree Of Peace
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The Speaker

Order, please. Mr. Koe, your microphone.

Supplementary To Question 699-12(3): Communication Difficulties Between Education And Tree Of Peace
Question 699-12(3): Communication Difficulties Between Education And Tree Of Peace
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Fred Koe Inuvik

My supplementary to the Minister is, you have committed and you have put the onus on Mr. Eagle and his colleagues to set up the meeting, but I in turn will have to put the onus on you, will you meet or commit to meet with Mr. Eagle as soon as possible?

Supplementary To Question 699-12(3): Communication Difficulties Between Education And Tree Of Peace
Question 699-12(3): Communication Difficulties Between Education And Tree Of Peace
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The Speaker

Thank you. Mr. Nerysoo.

Further Return To Question 699-12(3): Communication Difficulties Between Education And Tree Of Peace
Question 699-12(3): Communication Difficulties Between Education And Tree Of Peace
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, yes, I will make that commitment here and I have made that commitment to meet Mr. Eagle already. In fact, I have asked him to meet with the staff because I think that from a detailed perspective they would be able to advise him on some of the details of the programs far better than I would. That offer is still outstanding and we are prepared to meet with him as soon as possible. If he wants to meet right now, we can meet right now.

Further Return To Question 699-12(3): Communication Difficulties Between Education And Tree Of Peace
Question 699-12(3): Communication Difficulties Between Education And Tree Of Peace
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Whitford.

Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question I would like to direct to the Minister of Renewable Resources, who is responsible for the environment. Mr. Speaker, we have heard a great deal of concern over the PanArctic dumping off of Lougheed Island. There has been a great deal of controversy over the method that is going to be used. Certainly, one of the questions that comes up out of this, and because of the deadline of April 15 for the issuance of the permit, is PanArctic under some deadline to dispose of this material that has been sitting there for the last 20 years? Are they under a deadline to dispose of it this year?

Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Mr. Allooloo.

Return To Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No, they are not.

Return To Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
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The Speaker

Supplementary, Mr. Whitford.

Supplementary To Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Given the fact that PanArctic is not under any kind of environmental pressure to get rid of this material, and I realize that spring is the best time in the Arctic to do the work because of the ice conditions and the daylight, is the Minister aware of any opportunity for this government to convey to PanArctic its suggestion that we hold a moratorium on the dumping for another year until we can get the best information on the disposal of this waste? Can we do that?

Supplementary To Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
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The Speaker

Mr. Allooloo.

Further Return To Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, we have communicated options to both the federal government's Environment Canada and to PanArctic to withhold the permit for one year until proper review of disposal options is undertaken. That is one of the options we put forward.

Another option we put to the federal government is that the federal government would assist PanArctic to clean up the site as they assisted PanArctic in the oil and gas exploration program through the petroleum initiative program at the time when the material was being shipped to Lougheed Island. We would like to see studies conducted on the long-term effects of ocean-dumping in the Arctic and put a moratorium in place until studies have been concluded to show what kind of impact it may have.

We would also like to reuse as much as possible the scrap metal that is proposed to be dumped into the ocean, for community use and other uses. We suggested that industry and the government post abandonment and restoration bonds to assure appropriate clean up is done after activity has taken place.

We have suggested that the federal Minister of Environment and Fisheries and Oceans publicly state their position on ocean dumping prior to April 15. Mr. Speaker, I would like to add that the motto that has been adopted by my people is that, "If you pack it in, you have to pack it out." Thank you.

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Further Return To Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
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The Speaker

Item 5, oral question. Supplementary, Mr. Whitford.

Supplementary To Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the detail of information that the Minister has given. Everything that has been done to date indicates that there is some rush to do this. I have watched the news programs on television and have seen articles in the paper, is there any reason that the Minister can inform this House and, my colleague for High Arctic, as to why PanArctic seems so determined that they must do this, do it this year and within the next few weeks as a matter of fact. Is there some reason we do not know about that they must do it this year?

Supplementary To Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
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The Speaker

Mr. Allooloo.

Further Return To Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When PanArctic applied for an ocean dumping permit from the federal government, both from Environment Canada and Fisheries and Oceans, they were given approval to proceed. Once we found out that they had been given approval, we contacted Environment Canada and Fisheries and Oceans to see if there was any way to reverse the decision. At the time when the federal government said they would allow PanArctic to do ocean-dumping, PanArctic contracted a company to do it for them. PanArctic feels they are obligated to adhere to the contract that they have given out. That is the reason they would like to do it April 15. We will try to stop them proceeding with the ocean dumping. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Question 700-12(3): Disposal Of Panarctic Waste
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Zoe.

Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question was going to be directed to the Minister responsible for Government Services and Public Works, but since he is not here maybe I can ask the Premier. Earlier today, Mr. Speaker, I gave a Member's statement about the problems that the Rae-Edzo school society is having with negotiating funding for maintenance and utilities for the Elizabeth Mackenzie Elementary School in Rae. My question to the Premier is, can the Premier explain to the House how this Minister's refusal to negotiate with the Rae-Edzo school society in this area can be considered to be consistent with the commitment of this government to increase community authority and responsibility?

Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Madam Premier.

Return To Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I would like to refer to a letter which was written to the honourable Member, Mr. Henry Zoe, the MLA for North Slave. Mr. Morin has written to the honourable Member stating he was not able at this time to give direction to negotiate with the Rae-Edzo school society for the transfer of operations and maintenance funding for the Elizabeth Mackenzie Elementary School. He refers to a decision of Cabinet which gave direction that such agreements with boards of health and education were not consistent with the GNWT transfer policy and initiative to transfer responsibilities to communities. He also said he recognizes that the 1982 agreement with the Rae-Edzo society is somewhat unique. To extend it to the new school would not be consistent with Cabinet direction. He also stated that while Education had not completed implementation of this direction, he understood that the Minister will be revisiting this with Cabinet.

At the time the Elizabeth Mackenzie school was opened, a contract to carry out O and M was signed with the society. Finance Management Board direction with the transfer of O and M funding would be withheld until the matter was removed or reviewed by Education. Hon. Mr. Richard Nerysoo and Mr. Morin have agreed to meet to review this matter. There has been a commitment made to the honourable Member to try to resolve this situation by April 15.

Mr. Speaker, I believe this is one of the things that has fallen between the cracks. There is a special arrangement and I believe the commitment to resolve this situation has been made by Mr. Morin and Mr. Nerysoo. Thank you.

Return To Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
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The Speaker

Item 5, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Zoe.

Supplementary To Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Supplementary, Mr. Speaker. With the response from the Premier, is it my understanding that this issue has already been discussed at the Cabinet level since it is not consistent with Cabinet direction? Has that been resolved so the Minister can now sit down and negotiate by April 15 with the school society?

Supplementary To Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Madam Premier.

Further Return To Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, at this time an exemption has not been sought mainly because, I believe, Mr. Morin had to depart and do his work in trying to get some

meetings on the housing issue in Ottawa. However, I know we have been told he would wish to bring this particular issue to Cabinet at the earliest possible convenience, once the Minister of Education has sat down to try to figure out what the avenues are to do that. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
Question 701-12(3): Delegation Of Authority To Rae-edzo School Society
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Ningark.