In the Legislative Assembly on November 1st, 1994. See this topic in context.

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The Chair John Ningark

Department Of Justice

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The Chair Brian Lewis

I would like to call the committee to order. We are on the Department of Justice. I would like to ask the Minister of Justice for his opening remarks.

Minister's Introductory Remarks

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the Standing Committee on Finance recommended that a capital budget for the Department of Justice be presented to this Legislative Assembly that would include a new capital plan for corrections initiatives. Mr. Pollard announced in his budget address that the Financial Management Board had authorized the Department of Justice to develop a corrections construction plan with a funding target of $3 million for 1995-96, rising to $4 million for 1996-97 and $5 million for 1997-98. The detail of the five-year capital plan is being developed now. The first year of the plan will include such things as an emphasis on community-based correctional centres, a young offenders' treatment centre and a women's correctional facility in Nunavut.

There will be a need for increased operational resources to run these new facilities. During the consultation process with the communities, appropriate means of delivering the service will also be explored. There will be very little offset available from resources in existing facilities to redirect for the new initiatives.

I have been directed by FMB to return with more detail on statistics and criteria for the various projects. Once that has been done, I plan to take the entire plan back to the Standing Committee on Finance and return to the Legislature with a supplementary estimate in February. Communities interested in community correctional projects will therefore have time to prepare to become involved.

In the meantime, in the capital plan you have before you, we have identified some rather modest requirements. These requirements are the absolute minimum that we need to maintain the justice system as it is.

Court services and registries have requested funding to secure an area at the Yellowknife Courthouse for the loading and unloading of prisoners. This area is necessary for the safety of the prisoners, RCMP and court staff.

The corrections division budget requirements for 1995-96 address such areas as:

- providing a second vehicle at the Territorial Women's Correctional Centre in Fort Smith;

- providing a vehicle for the Inuvik open custody young offenders' facility;

- installing proper ventilation in the craft room at the young offenders' facility in Iqaluit;

- upgrading the surveillance equipment at Yellowknife Correctional Centre by installing time-lapse VCR recorders;

- renovating a private interview area for high-security inmates at Yellowknife Correctional Centre; and,

- replacing existing glass windows with security glazing at the Baffin Correctional Centre.

As I said earlier, the 1995-96 capital estimates before you are only addressing projects necessary to maintain basic and reasonable operational/safety needs.

Mr. Chairman, I will be pleased to answer any questions that you, the Members, may have. Could I have my staff come in to assist me? Thank you.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Yes, at the appropriate time, Mr. Kakfwi, we will invite you to take the witness table. First, I would like to turn to the Standing Committee on Finance.

Standing Committee On Finance Comments

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is from the review of the 1995-96 capital estimates. The committee was, again, dismayed during our review to find that the Department of Justice had not prepared a five-year capital plan to lay out spending plans for corrections and other areas. While the Minister told the committee what targets had been laid out for the next five years by the FMB, committee Members cannot properly address this area without knowing what the department's spending priorities will be.

Recommendation 5

The Standing Committee on Finance recommends that the capital budget for the Department of Justice be presented to the House as part of consideration of the overall 1995-96 capital estimates.

It is also crucial that the Minister and the department develop a strategy for addressing correctional and other needs. This is an important part of government expenditures and should not be addressed in a haphazard manner. The committee looks forward to seeing what the department has planned in the way of strategy development.

Following the Minister's appearance, committee Members concluded that the following recommendations should be made to the department.

Recommendation 6

The Standing Committee on Finance recommends that the Department of Justice establish pilot projects in community-based corrections in their 1995-96 capital budget.

Recommendation 7

The Standing Committee on Finance recommends that the Department of Justice include a facility for violent young offenders in its five-year capital plan.

Recommendation 8

The Standing Committee on Finance recommends that the Department of Justice include a second women's correctional facility, preferably in Nunavut, in its five-year capital plan.

Committee Members also noted the Minister's discussion with the federal government regarding the establishment of a correctional facility for violent offenders, who would otherwise be incarcerated in southern institutions. The committee encourages the Minister to continue discussions with the federal government in this area.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you. Mr. Antoine.