Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't think the corporation was looking at having separate leases with every individual person living in a unit. It was to be one lease with amendments to the lease, I believe that is what David explained to us in the advisory committee. They will be named, and they have to sign the lease, so they would have to pay the lease. It was never the intention of the Housing Corporation, even in the original rent scale, that the elder would collect the rent from four or five other people. It was always those people who were to pay the housing authority directly.

And, if they don't pay the rent, it will go through regular procedures of how they deal with it.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think the rentals man and the lawyers are going to have fun with that because I don't know how you collect rent from five, six or eight people. Maybe they are all going to pay their rent and the increases. But I think that is one that will have to be handled carefully.

This is my second and final question, Mr. Chairman. I hope this works well and that it doesn't have some of the negative effects I was concerned about, but I would like to ask the Minister, is the corporation planning to build in an evaluation of this major change? It is really the first time the rental scale has been changed in over 10 years. There is a lot of new ground being broken here. We are trying to change a lot of attitudes. Will there be an evaluation component built into this new adventure in social housing from the beginning, so that we can assess what worked and perhaps what didn't work, so there can be some flexibility and some room for amendments to the policies, in case there are problems that emerge? My specific question is, have you built in an evaluation or will you build in an evaluation? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We do have an evaluation process for all our programs. We have a consultation process with the community early on. We have an Advisory Committee on Social Housing that would listen to those concerns. We do evaluate our programs and make adjustments to them. Thank you.

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have another question I would like to raise. The basic rent scale, even though it will be for a year, for the residents in Baffin South, as Dennis mentioned before, it is getting harder and harder to get jobs. The prices of everything is going up. We are all aware that it is getting harder and harder to earn a living. Ottawa is saying they won't give us any more houses. The people who are social assistance recipients, especially the older people...A number of people in the household work or in some households aren't working at all. There are widows who don't make any wages because there doesn't seem to be too much consideration as to how much money they are making. I'm wondering if our elders will be put into a situation where they will have a difficult time paying their rent, would the head of the house be responsible to pay for the rent, even if the household is a recipient of social assistance? If they don't pay their rents, then the head of the household would be responsible for paying the rent. Will that be the case? How will this be handled if these situations arise? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Elders' rents will be reduced and so will social assistance recipients' rents, from $32 down to nothing or $1. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is what the regions recommended through the regional consultation process. We worked with all the communities in the Northwest Territories and that is how we came up with this percentage.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is tied into that system as well. We did it at the beginning in chunks, where it would go, for example, from 50, 60, 40 to 30 per cent. Through the regional consultation process, it was determined that people wanted it to go every one per cent. So, if you were at 51 per cent you would have $90 dollars deducted, compared to 59 or 60 per cent. So, it made a big difference for clients.

Until your unit is condition-rated down to 60 per cent, the unit is in good condition, so why would you give an adjustment for anything above 60 per cent. That wouldn't make sense. Thank you.