In the Legislative Assembly on November 16th, 1994. See this topic in context.

Question 28-12(7): Nwtpc Rate Stabilization Fund
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Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I would like to thank Mr. Koe for letting me go first. I have to go to the treaty entitlement ceremony. Mr. Speaker, though I agree with my colleague from Yellowknife that the decision of the Public Utilities Board is better than the proposal put forth by the Power Corporation, my constituents find it totally unacceptable. Mr. Speaker, it is absolutely unfair that the citizens of Yellowknife have to pay a penalty because of the lack of long-term planning by the Power Corporation.

So, my question, Mr. Speaker, to the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation is, why wasn't the $7 million extra revenue that came out of the Snare system during the time of high water put into a stabilization fund to pay for the low-water years? Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Ballantyne. I would like to remind the Member that I am not a Madam.

---Laughter

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, the specific question Mr. Ballantyne is asking is with regard to planning for a calculation of unanticipated costs relating to the charges necessary when the environment doesn't allow for enough water to run a hydro system. Mr. Speaker, a stabilization fund was not set up because the rate of return did not allow enough to be able to absorb the expenses incurred in trying to reach our commitment of providing infrastructure to communities, including the upgrading of the Snare Yellowknife system and the dividends paid to the territorial government for a subsidy of power. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Thank you, Madam Premier. Mr. Ballantyne.

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Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North

Supplementary, Mr. Speaker. My apologies, Mr. Speaker. In the PUB report there is an unusual section which condemns the Power Corporation for not showing due diligence in setting up a stabilization fund. So, my question to the Minister is, when did the Power Corporation apply for a stabilization fund to the Public Utilities Board?

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, Mr. Speaker, sorry. Mr. Speaker, what I have indicated is that the rate of return that was allowed for the NWT Power Corporation in the past did not allow enough revenue to create a stabilization fund, although it was contemplated over a year ago, or earlier than that. There wasn't enough money by the time the Power Corporation had worked on infrastructure and had paid to the territorial government the subsidization for power. The rate of return only allowed for that, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Thank you, Madam Premier. Mr. Ballantyne.

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Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam, Mr. Speaker. We are so used to this, Mr. Speaker, it will take us at least another day to get used to you being in the chair and then we won't be here, probably. But, I will try to remember. Supplementary, Mr. Speaker. That didn't really answer my question. The Public Utilities Board is not able to read the minds of the Power Corporation. The Public Utilities Board, as I said, in quite an unusual part of the decision, condemned the Power Corporation for not exercising due diligence. As far as I'm aware, the Power Corporation hadn't specifically asked for the ability to set up a stabilization fund.

My question to the Minister is, can the Minister assure this House and assure the power consumers of the Northwest Territories that, in fact, a rate stabilization fund will be set up so that users in this particular system -- and it's their system -- will never again have to face an unacceptable high increase that they're facing today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Ballantyne. Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I don't know if the Member wants me to answer the two questions that are in his statement or his preamble. I'm not quite sure how I can be more specific. Maybe he can be more specific on exactly what the question is.

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Thank you, Madam. All you're required to do is make a response to a question. Your final supplementary, Mr. Ballantyne.

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Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North

I would be quite happy if the Minister answered my preamble, my example and my question. I would be happy for all three. But if the Minister only wants to answer one, will the Minister ensure that the Power Corporation sets up a rate stabilization fund so that the power users of the Snare system will never again have to face such an unacceptably high increase in one year? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Ballantyne. Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, in discussions with the Power Corporation, I can make one assurance. However, the problem in trying to answer the question of it never happening in the future...I can't predict nor can the Power Corporation what extremes can happen in the future. However, within reasonable variances, I can assure the Member that it is the intent of the Power Corporation to set up a stabilization fund. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Thank you, Madam Premier. Next on my list is Mr. Koe.