Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know it is difficult when you are talking about positions to find room to change things around. But, knowing the layer of people in Public Works and Services, I'm not surprised to hear the Minister say he cannot defend that one.

Mr. Chairman, regarding the 14.5 PYs for corrections, which are coming from a base deficiency, I would like to point out that that program was recently transferred from Social Services. And I have no doubt it was short when it came over; Social Services has always been at the short end of the stick. I would also like to point out that perhaps, here, we are providing 14.5 PYs to deal with people after they have got into trouble, instead of providing the social workers to provide the counselling and assistance to try to help keep people out of trouble in the first place, which would, in the long run, be a heck of a lot more efficient.

I would like to ask the Minister, when are we going to deal with this critical shortage of social service workers in the communities?