In the Legislative Assembly on February 11th, 1994. See this topic in context.

Question 61-12(5): Rights Of Non-aboriginal People To Own Land Under Claims Negotiations
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to Mr. Kakfwi. Madam Speaker, yesterday, I talked to one of the elders here who I've known for a long time. About a year ago, I began discussing with him the possibility of building a house out at Prelude Lake where I have title to a lot. I've had it for a long time, but only squirrels and other little animals live in the shack I have there right now because it wasn't very well built. So, I want to build a decent one that my wife and I can stay in.

In light of the new developments in relation to land claims in the Yellowknife area, whereby instead of a negotiated land claim agreement, the Treaty 8 people want to have a clarification of what Treaty 8 really meant, and the fact that they claim they have not seeded the land, I would like to ask the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs -- and I'm using this personal example because it applies to lots of other people who own land outside of Yellowknife, what form of protection I have. I have to decide whether I'm going to build a good, decent sized house that will cost money, or just a little one that I won't worry about. What form of protection will I have, or other people like me, to build on titled lots outside of municipal boundaries?

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The Speaker

Thank you. Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Speaker, it has been the policy of the federal government that all existing third-party interests in areas that are under negotiations are respected. I don't expect the federal government will be changing its position in these negotiations. The nature and the scope of the talks that Treaty 8 will have with the federal government with regard to their treaty land entitlement, is still not clear. The scope of those discussions has yet to be defined. It's my understanding that the federal government always insists that whatever third-party interests exist at the time negotiations get under way, are to be respected. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Supplementary, Mr. Lewis.

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Question 61-12(5): Rights Of Non-aboriginal People To Own Land Under Claims Negotiations
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February 10th, 1994

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

I would like to ask the Minister, since the negotiations that would take place between the Treaty 8 chiefs and the federal government would not be to get a new treaty, a new agreement or a new deal, but on the basis of a treaty that already exists, does that change the nature of negotiations from the one that the Minister is familiar with, whereby the federal government always honours such things as current ownership of title?

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The Speaker

Thank you. Minister of Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Speaker, it's my understanding that there are two different versions with regard to Treaty 8. There is the written version that the federal government has, then there is the Dene version, the oral version as held by the Dene chiefs and the elders of the Treaty 8 region. The intent of the talks will determine whose version is the correct version. Whether that's going to be done through the courts or through negotiations remains to be seen, but I would expect that the federal government would probably take a very restricted view in their interpretation of the treaties, and the Dene will take the view that they've long held through the years. Thank you.

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Antoine.