Madam Speaker, earlier I referred to anglo-saxon countries. For those that don't know who they are, some of the European parliamentarians that I have met said those are the people from Great Britain, from the Netherlands and from Germany. These are the ones that are considered to be Anglo-Saxon countries, and they are in the forefront of this animal rights movement in Europe. What I find is that the members elected by these countries to the European Parliament are the ones that are the most fanatical about animal rights. It is now becoming increasingly clear to me that now that they know it is possible to do some work that would come up with new, innovative ways of trapping animals and setting very acceptable levels of killing animals, they have now started a lobby to say that there is no such thing as acceptable standards, that there is no such thing as humane methods or standards for harvesting of wildlife, that all killing, all harvesting of wildlife is inhumane and, therefore, no standards are acceptable. This is what is happening.

The European Parliament is now on its last legs because in July, I believe, there will be elections across Europe for new Members. There are some 500 or 800 of them that are going to be elected. All those people that I have met from what you call the anglo-saxon countries have indicated to me that the predominant public opinion in their constituencies is that they have to act like they are very concerned about animal welfare and they have to demonstrate they are animal rights activists or public sentiment, at this time, will not see them re-elected.

I have raised the point that there were millions of people prior to the second world war that thought Hitler was the best thing that happened to Germany in a long time. There were millions of people, thousands that came out and thought it was a good thing, and, perhaps historically, some of them should stand up and show some backbone and say there are some moral obligations we have to people in this country and this world and that just because millions of Europeans feel that we should stop killing and trapping animals, does not mean it's right. We need some politicians with some backbone and some principle here. They said they were off to the election, and that's the last I saw of them. Thank you.