I used to work with NCPC at one time, and so did you, Mr. Chairman. A lot of the technical tasks that are referred to are out in the field, as opposed to what goes on in

the offices. When the Minister refers to the technical work, I'm not too sure what is so technical about operating computers, giving out bills, et cetera. If this work is substantially technical, perhaps you might be able to enlighten me. I still recall working back then -- and I won't tell you the year -- doing banks, running transmission lines and everything else. To do those things was quite easy, once you knew the schematics, or the blueprints.

Perhaps the Minister might enlighten me on what is so technical about the operation in Hay River that it requires specialized training and career path direction. If my memory serves me correctly, the two individuals I referred to didn't get past the receptionist. They were discouraged from even considering filling out an application because they were told that the positions were highly technical and required college or university students, and not just students who just completed grade 12.