Thank you. That was a suggestion. Mr. Minister.
Debates of March 28th, 1994
Topics
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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The Chair John Ningark
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
I agree with Mr. Whitford's comments and suggestions. There will be a meeting with northern carriers in May. We will hear from them again, first hand, their views on the way we do business. I also agree with Mr. Zoe that what Mr. Whitford said is totally agreeable. We are all on one side and agreeable today. Thank you.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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The Chair John Ningark
Do we agree with the agreement of the Minister?
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
March 27th, 1994
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Forest fire management, total O & M, $22.237 million. Agreed?
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Forest Management
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Forest management, total O & M, $566,000. Agreed?
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Details of grants and contributions. Grants, $3.615 million.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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The Chair John Ningark
Contributions on page 12-20, $2.021 million. Agreed?
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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The Chair John Ningark
Grants and contributions. Mr. Allooloo.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was referring to page 12-19, the details of grants and contributions. Under the regional wildlife operations, I am told that there is a discrepancy between the regions, and the largest region in the whole Northwest Territories gets less per capita than the two regions. I wonder if that has been rectified and what the
government is planning to do if they haven't rectified it. Thank you.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Yes, Mr. Chairman. The suggestion that I have made in this House a number of times now in response to questions from Mr. Pudlat and others is that there has been no consistent basis for the funding given to regional HTAs. No one has addressed it for a number of years. It came up in January to this novice Minister and I was asked in very short order to fix what has been an historical imbalance in the consistency of funding allocation. I don't propose to do it. I have been suggesting, in rather flattering terms, that the new wildlife management board of Nunavut should be the one to suggest ways to remedy that, since they will also be receiving funds for management of wildlife from a number of other areas. That is the role of this Nunavut wildlife board. Next week, there will be a meeting of this board and we will be asking this question to be put to them. Thank you.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Details of grants and contributions. Mr. Allooloo.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That responsibility has been traditionally with GNWT. I hear the Minister saying that it should be a wildlife management board that comes up with a difference. To me, the wildlife management board will be dealing with the land claim money that is allocated to Nunavut. We have been, as territorial MLAs and Ministers, telling the federal government that they have been off-loading to us, to the GNWT. If the Minister is saying that the balance should be coming out of the wildlife management board, the GNWT seems to be doing the same thing that they have been complaining about, that is off-loading to wildlife. I would encourage the Minister to seek some sort of formula to deal with the regional HTAs to see that there is a consistency in giving out the regional HTA funding. Thank you.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, if we just take it on a territorial-wide basis, the allocation for Baffin would drop dramatically because we don't do it all across the territories, just primarily the eastern part of the territories. As I said, we would give this total allocation to the public board. The Nunavut wildlife management board is a public institution that is set up to help this government manage wildlife and carry out its responsibilities. It does have a very broad role. Because there is claim money and other money and resources coming in, this block allocation should be suggested to this management board. They will manage it. That was a suggestion. I don't think it is possible for me to fix it. I can go raid the Keewatin and Kitikmeot to top up what the Baffin has been getting. Other Ministers before me didn't do it.
---Laughter
I am very reluctant to get up and try to raid what is not really mine. Thank you.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Perhaps there were less hunters in one area and that is why they get less money.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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The Chair John Ningark
Details of grants and contributions. We are on page 12-20, grants and contributions, $5.636 million. Mr. Antoine.
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Regarding the grants, there is the Nunavut hunter income support trust for $3 million. This is the biggest grant that this government gives to any group. Last year we gave it and this year we are giving it again. It is going to go on for about five years in a row. It comes from the claims negotiations. One of the questions SCOF asked was how many more of these are we going to expect for the future? We find claims money tucked away in all of these departments throughout this process. We asked the government to see if they could add it all up to see how much it comes to, but we haven't received that yet. On this one, is there anything there for other groups or is this the only group that gets $3 million a year for five years?
Tabled Document 34-12(5): Tradition And Change, A Strategy For Renewable Resource Development In The Nwt, February 1994
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.