This is page numbers 227 - 260 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was ---agreed.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

I thank the Minister for stopping the process. Mr. Speaker, can I ask the Minister if he can ensure that his department staff will undertake community consultation with regard to the exportation of live wood bison?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arngna'naaq.

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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With the concern that the Member has raised, I have put a stop to the transportation of bison at this present time. I think that the direction the department was taking is the direction that we should take a careful look at. I have said that we should put a stop to this. However, we should continue to talk about it and see what direction we can take with it. One of the consultations that will be made will be with the residents of Fort Smith. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ningark.

John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Subsequent to the Member's statement I made earlier, I will direct my question to the Minister of Health and Social Services. In the absence of the Minister, since this matter is urgent, I will direct my question to the Minister of Finance, Mr. Pollard.

Mr. Speaker, when I talked about establishing a birthing centre in my area, I am not saying that expectant mothers should stay in the community. Quite the contrary, Mr. Speaker. I think it is very important that those expectant mothers with a history of complications, should continue to use the medical centre, here in Yellowknife. But for low-risk mothers, Mr. Speaker...The Minister has been advised by Taloyoak of the desire for a community birthing centre. Can the Minister give a date of when the community will receive notification of when the government will support this centre? Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Minister of Finance, Mr. Pollard.

John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will take the question as notice. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The question was taken as notice. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Zoe.

Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be directed to the Minister of intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs. Mr. Speaker, on February 15th, I asked the Minister what he sees as the role of the Government of the Northwest Territories in self-government negotiations between aboriginal groups in the west and the federal Crown. Mr. Speaker, I have some concerns with the answers he provided me. The Minister seemed to imply that the Government of the Northwest Territories has the same constitutional status as a province has. Does the Minister consider that the Government of the Northwest Territories has the same constitutional status that a province has, in the context of self-government negotiations with aboriginal groups? Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, my statement was not intended to imply that the Government of the Northwest Territories has the same status as a provincial government. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

If that is the case, what does the Minister mean when he says that the Government of the Northwest Territories must be an independent party to all self-government negotiations affecting the Northwest Territories? Will this involve a Government of the Northwest Territories veto?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, provinces have status different from territorial governments. In fact, they are constitutionally-recognized governments. The territorial government does not have constitutional status. Having said that, it is the policy of the federal government that this includes the territorial government because we deliver programs and services on their behalf. We are mandated to deliver programs and services to all people of the territories, including aboriginal people in certain areas. It is in the best interest of the federal government, ourselves and the public that we be a party to these negotiations. That is a very simple explanation, but that is one of the primary reasons for having us involved in the negotiations. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my understanding that our government doesn't have any constitutional authority to do this on their own. Is that what the Minister is saying? Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, it is the policy of the federal government. It has been in practice already, for instance, in the negotiations with the Gwich'in on developing the framework agreement and will be included in other subsequent self-government negotiations that we will be a party to. We believe that that is the best way to proceed. We are, and have been, for instance, in the claims negotiations, part of the federal team in negotiations and in many cases have laid almost separate status in order to assist in expediting and balancing of the negotiations in the interest of the aboriginal people themselves. So the issue of self-government

negotiations is going to affect the Constitutional Development Steering Committee process. It is going to affect the way in which the public, including the aboriginal people, will expect to have services delivered to them. So I think it is in the interest of everyone that the Government of the Northwest Territories be involved in those negotiations. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that a new federal policy with regard to negotiating self-government agreements hasn't been developed yet. I am curious as to why the Minister would be making those types of assumptions. I realize that it is based on previous policy from the previous government in power, but I don't know if that will be the case with the new policy with regard to self-government negotiations.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I don't take it upon myself to explain what the federal position is with regard to the negotiations. We have been pushing very, very hard to make sure that the federal government lives up to its red book commitments in delivering a new policy that would recognize the inherent right and come out with a clear policy at the earliest possible date. This would certainly clarify for everybody exactly what the mandate is for the federal negotiators when they sit down, and what the role of the Government of the Northwest Territories will be in those negotiations.

At this time, it is not clear at all what the status of the inherent right to self-government policy is with the federal government. The last I heard from the Minister's office is that, at best, he has a handful of speaking points to consider and it is nowhere near to having some recognizable shape or form. Having said that, it is our understanding that the federal government will continue to insist that under the present policy, the Government of the Northwest Territories will be part of the negotiations and it will be particularly important because we are negotiating self-government specifically with aboriginal groups in particular regions. The money and the programs that are involved are not in the hands of the federal government; they are presently in the hands of this government and it is our duty to make sure that the programs and services which are being negotiated do not unduly undermine the quality of service that is presently provided or undermine the quality and level of service provided to other citizens of the Northwest Territories who are not a party to these negotiations. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Lewis.