In the Legislative Assembly on February 22nd, 1995. See this topic in context.

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The Chair John Ningark

We will now deal with Bill 14, Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1994. I believe Minister Kakfwi has the opening remarks for this bill.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The purpose of Bill 14, Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1994, is to amend various statutes of the Northwest Territories in which errors, inconsistencies or anomalies have been identified and brought to the attention of the Department of Justice by members of the judiciary, Department of Justice staff, other government employees or private citizens.

The departments responsible for the administration of the various statutes being amended by the Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1994, have each reviewed and approved the changes to the statutes under their authority.

The changes proposed in Bill 14 are non-controversial in nature and usually consist of grammatical corrections to either the English or French version of a statute. Other changes have the effect of repealing certain provisions of the statutes that have expired, lapsed or otherwise ceased to exist. The amendments are of such a nature that the preparation and legislative consideration of individual bills to correct each act would be time-consuming for the government and the Legislative Assembly. In order for an amendment to be included in the bill, it had to meet the following criteria:

a)It must not be controversial;

b)It must not involve the spending of public funds;

c)It must not prejudicially affect the rights of persons; and,

d)It must not create a new offence or subject a new class of persons to an existing offence.

Mr. Chairman, in our view, the amendments proposed in Bill 14 meet those criteria. My officials and I will be pleased to answer any questions the committee may have. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Minister. On behalf of the standing committee who reviewed the bill, Mr. Tony Whitford.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On behalf of the Standing Committee on Legislation, I am pleased to be able to report on Bill 14, Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1994. The Standing Committee on Legislation has completed its review of Bill 14, the Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act. The committee held public hearings on this bill in Yellowknife on Tuesday, December 13, 1994 and no presentations from the public were heard, primarily due to the nature of this bill.

Bill 14 proposes to make minor amendments to a variety of statutes all at once. It corrects a number of inconsistencies and errors that have been discovered in the statutes of the Northwest Territories. The bill also proposes to repeal a number of provisions of statutes that are redundant, have expired, or otherwise ceased to have effect.

In reviewing the Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, the standing committee was satisfied that the criteria set out by the Department of Justice for amendments to be included in this bill had been met. However, the committee would like to make a comment on an aspect of this bill, in particular, and all bills in general. Often amendments are proposed in the French text in a piece of legislation. In these cases, even though the changes are often small, it would greatly assist committee Members if the nature of these amendments could be explained, either in the bill itself or an accompanying document.

Mr. Chairman, this completes the Standing Committee on Legislation's report on Bill 14. On December 13, 1994, the committee passed a motion that Bill 14 be reported as ready for consideration in committee of the whole. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, the honourable Member for Yellowknife South. Before we get into general comments, I would like to ask the Honourable Minister Stephen Kakfwi if he wishes to bring in the witnesses.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Yes, please.

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The Chair John Ningark

Please bring in the witnesses. Thank you. Mr. Minister, for the record, introduce the witness please.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have with me on my right, Mr. Richard Denis, the manager of legal translation, Department of Justice.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Minister. We are dealing with Bill 14, Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1994. The floor is now open for general comments. Do we have general comments from the committee Members? Shall we go clause by clause.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 1.

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Clause 2.

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Agreed.

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Clause 3.

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Agreed.

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Clause 4.

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Agreed.

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Clause 5.

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Agreed.

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Thank you. Clause 6.

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Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 7 of Bill 14.

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Agreed.

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Thank you. Clause 8.

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Agreed.

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Thank you. Clause 9.

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Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Qujannamiik. Clause 10.

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Agreed.

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Thank you. Clause 11.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 12.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 13.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 14.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 15.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 16.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Clause 17.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Clause 18 of Bill 14.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 19.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Clause 20.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Clause 21.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Clause 22.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 23.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 24.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 25.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 26.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 27.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 28.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 29.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 30.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Qujannamiik. Clause 31.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 32.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 33.

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Agreed.

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Thank you. Clause 34.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Qujannamiik. Clause 35.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 36.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Clause 37.

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Agreed.

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Thank you. Clause 38.

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Agreed.

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Thank you. Clause 39.

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Agreed.

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Thank you. Clause 40.

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Agreed.

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Clause 41 of Bill 14.

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Agreed.

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Thank you. Clause 42.

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Agreed.

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Clause 43.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 44.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Qujannamiik. Clause 45.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 46.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Clause 47.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Thank you. Clause 48.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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Qujannamiik. Clause 49.

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Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Clause 50. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Clause 50 pertains to amendments to the Regional Councils Act. There are a number of amendments which affect my regional council. As Members know, there are a number of regional councils which aren't active or have been disbanded. I know, for instance, that the Baffin Regional Council is no longer functioning and in my region the regional council hasn't been receiving funding from our government for the last number of years.

I don't see why they are changing 9(b) by striking out "sub chiefs of Dogrib Rae Band in Rae Lakes," and substituting it with "Chief of the Rae Lakes Dene Band." I have problems with that, Mr. Chairman, because that regional council doesn't exist and here they are making amendments which have no meaning at this point in time. I wonder if the government has taken into consideration why these amendments are going forward because this council hasn't existed for the last number of years. If they are going to make amendments then maybe they should repeal the regional council from my area.

Over the years, Ndilo, or lot 500, and Dettah have broken away from the Dogrib Regional Council. The government is aware of that but they haven't made any provisions to repeal that particular regional council. I wonder why they are only making these minor amendments which have no effect on the regional council in my region. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, the changes, as we explained in our opening remarks, have to be non-controversial in nature so as to not involve the spending of public money. The Regional Councils Act the way it is does not reflect some changes that have been made. For instance, the band in Rae Lakes is no longer a sub-band; it is now a band on its own, so we're reflecting that. We haven't made any changes about taking out membership of the band in Dettah or Ndilo Council also doesn't function by itself, it's not functional any more. What I'm suggesting is why are they tinkering with making amendments to the Regional Councils Act. If they're going to make these types of amendments, then they should make those appropriate amendments where they can clean up the whole act rather than just making these minor adjustments which will have no bearing, for instance, on my region because my regional council is not functioning at this point it time; it hasn't for the last three years.

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Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, it's very easy to resolve that because the Member is obviously unhappy with these proposed amendments and it is controversial, it no longer fits into our direction as we saw it. It is obviously controversial. So we're prepared, if the Member wants, to take out, for instance, under clause 50, subsections 8, 9 and 10 as they specifically relate to his constituency.

If he feels that all of the amendments proposed to the Regional Councils Act are controversial by nature and he makes his case, then we would be prepared to take the entire section of amendments out, even though it is far-reaching, it goes into the Kitikmeot, the Sahtu and a whole range of other areas. As I say, does the Member wish to make a specific suggestion to them? Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. To clause 50, Mr. Zoe.

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Bill 14: Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1994
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, I don't want to make our legal people do work for nothing. By making these amendments, we're making them do work for nothing because it's not going to serve any purpose. So I would agree with the Minister, because under this particular section, those three sections that he made reference to, I think, should be deleted; Sections 8, 9 and 10 in clause 50.