Mr. Chairman, I move that the portion reflecting subsections 8, 9 and 10 be deleted from clause 50.
Committee Motion To Delete Subsections 8, 9 And 10 From Clause 50 Of Bill 14, Ruled Out Of Order
In the Legislative Assembly on February 22nd, 1995. See this topic in context.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Mr. Zoe, I'm informed by the Clerk that this is not the way we delete sections. Mr. Zoe, I rule your motion out of order. I'm informed that this is not the usual way of deleting clauses. Your motion is not the usual way of deleting subsections 8, 9 and 10.
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Mr. Zoe, the chair is not clear what you're trying to do. Mr. Zoe.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Do we have the agreement of the committee that we shall take some time out until the motion is ready for presentation? Mr. Minister.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, perhaps we could meet with the Member to draft it together since the amendment has to be done, in part, by myself since we need to make some technical amendments; for instance, in numbering the subsequent subsections.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister, you're requesting a meeting during this break to talk with the Member. That will be up to the Member and you, as the Minister. Mr. Kakfwi.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
I also need to know whether or not...I don't know if it could be done in 10 minutes or so, but we just need some advice on it from the staff here on whether we should defer this bill for consideration and come back to it later, or whether we have to start over again if we do that.
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The Chair John Ningark
We'll take a break and take it from there. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
We'll take a break. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Zoe, do you have a solution to your little misunderstanding or disagreement? Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, after serious consideration on this particular clause, I realize that the government is making only minor amendments in terms of making corrections to the appropriate name and so forth but the concern that I'm raising is of a broader nature. Mr. Chairman, these regional councils exist only on paper at this time and that's the point I was making. In reality, they don't exist. I understand what the Minister is doing and the point that I was trying to make was that if they are going to make any changes to the Regional Councils Act, it should have been done right in the first place where these broader issues should have been addressed. Unfortunately, this was not the case. But after talking to a number of Ministers they assured me that the whole issue of the Regional Councils Act will be revisited. I wonder if I could ask the Minister, pertaining to clause 50, if they are going to make a commitment to making major amendments to the Regional Councils Act in the future.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. I believe Mr. Minister is pointing out to another Minister. Mr. Pollard.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, last week I was being questioned by Mr. Patterson about the funding issues for the regional councils and I think Mr. Zoe is correct; I mean, they're not operating in his area. In January, there was a motion in Baffin to dissolve that particular council there. South of the lake they're not working either. Maybe it's timely that we did look at the piece of legislation so I will commit to the House, to the Member, that we will look at the piece of legislation to see how it can be amended to suit the situation that exists today in the territories. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 50. Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
In that respect, Mr. Chairman, then these minor amendments that have already been drafted, then they just take this section and put it in the Regional Councils Act so the work's technically done in terms of the legal stuff. I'll let this one go and I agree with clause 50. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Zoe. It seems that we have had a fruitful 30-minute break. Clause 50, agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Clause 51.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 52.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 53.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 54.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 55.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 56.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 57.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 58.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 59.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 60 of Bill 14.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 61.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 62.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 63.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 64.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 65.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 66.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Clause 67.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 68.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 69.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 70.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Bill as a whole. yes, Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Mr. Chairman, could I seek the committee's permission to go back to clause 68?
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Some Hon. Members
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Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North
It's a cruicial, crucial claause.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Could we have the agreement of the committee that we go back to clause 68?
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was just wondering if I could find out from the Minister, 68(2), if I read it right is the only change there that we're reducing a space between the two words?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 68, Mr. Minister.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 68. Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 69.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Clause 70.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Bill as a whole.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Does the committee agree that the Bill 14, Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1994, is ready for third reading?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Bill 14, Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1994, is now ready for third reading. I would like to thank the Minister and the witness for appearing before the committee.